Post by: Gary S on December 08, 2003, 05:00:04 PM
I've been having trouble with one window not holding it's settings....it's the Menu bar->Go->Computer window.
It's nothing earth shattering but it bugs me. Also after I do some filesharing the Icons in the Window become all jumbled up.
I don't have a jumbled screenshot but i have 2 that show what the problem looks like:
After setting the way I want them
After I close and open the Window
Anyone know how to fix this?
I've run DiskWarrior and rpaired Perms a number of times since this started happening a month or so ago.
TIA
Post by: pendragon on December 08, 2003, 06:07:04 PM
Harv
Post by: Gary S on December 08, 2003, 06:16:38 PM
The other 2 users on this computer don't have the problem.
Post by: pendragon on December 08, 2003, 06:21:25 PM
I'll keep thinking...such that it is.Harv
Post by: kps on December 08, 2003, 07:36:15 PM
1. Open ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist in TextEdit. [the tilde or ~ stands for your HOME directory.]
In TextEdit scroll down to this section and change the IconSize from 32 to 60
CODE
<key>DesktopViewOptions</key>
<dict>
<key>ArrangeBy</key>
<string>grid</string>
<key>BackgroundFlags</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>BackgroundType</key>
<string>DefB</string>
<key>FontSize</key>
<integer>12</integer>
<key>IconSize</key>
<integer>32</integer>
<key>PropertiesLocation</key>
<string>botm</string>
<key>ShowPreviewIcon</key>
<false/>
<key>ViewMoreInfo</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>ArrangeBy</key>
<string>grid</string>
<key>BackgroundFlags</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>BackgroundType</key>
<string>DefB</string>
<key>FontSize</key>
<integer>12</integer>
<key>IconSize</key>
<integer>32</integer>
<key>PropertiesLocation</key>
<string>botm</string>
<key>ShowPreviewIcon</key>
<false/>
<key>ViewMoreInfo</key>
<false/>
</dict>
Save and relaunch the finder from the Force Quit window under the Apple menu.
2. If that does not work, trash the Finder preference file altogether and redo all your finder prefs.
Post by: Spartacus on December 09, 2003, 01:44:33 AM
I still have it in Panther, too.
But so far, I couldn't recognize a pattern. Some windows ignore the global settings, other work just fine.
Furthermore, the size of the window that opens when I click on the Finder icon in the dock is much larger than the window that opens when I double-click the HD icon.
Like Gary said, it's nothing earth shattering but it's rather annoying.
Post by: Gary S on December 09, 2003, 07:48:52 AM
I'll let you know how it comes out, or in or whatever.
Post by: Scott on December 09, 2003, 09:58:21 AM
Post by: Gary S on December 09, 2003, 05:40:34 PM
I can't open com.apple.finder.plist in TextEdit. I tried the Control Key->Open with and tried TextEdit and it won't open it.
It opened with OmniOutliner when I double clicked on it.
Post by: kps on December 09, 2003, 06:32:07 PM
Use GetInfo to change the file association back to a plain text file , TextEdit or BBEdit (if you have it). You could just trash it and start over again, hopefuly the file association will remain as a "default document" a blank doc icon.
Post by: Gary S on December 09, 2003, 09:45:55 PM
QUOTE
Do you have all your prefs show as OmniOutliner?
No. Most of them look like generic prefs without icons. Some have TextEdit icons etc.
Should TextEdit be the default app to open all my prefs? Some are TextEdit and some are not.
I've trashed the Finder prefs and it still exibits the same behavior in that window.
Post by: Gary S on December 09, 2003, 10:01:07 PM
I booted into OS9.2.2 and trashed the Finder prefs and that window seems to be holding the settings for now.
I'll see how it goes tommorrow.
Post by: Gary S on December 09, 2003, 10:37:21 PM
Post by: kps on December 09, 2003, 10:47:52 PM
Apple's .plists are in XML formated text, mine show up as BBEdit icons, others show up as TextEdit docs, some as blank document icons (generic), some are binary files and have an application specific icon (Adobe products) and some even have the old OS 9 type pref icon. If you install the Apple developer tools, most of the Apple .plists will change to the PListEditor icon (a developer app used for creating and editing .plists). It all depends on the application, but here we were dealing with Apple's stuff, so it's a XML formated text document with the .plist extention. Believe it or not, Panther is still capable of using the old 'creator codes' as well as the file extensions.
BTW, the Finder hides a lot of file extensions from view. For example the 'Terminal.app' shows in the finder as 'Terminal', but run a directory listing in the shell and all the extensions are visible. Come to think of it, I think you can also turn this on in Finder's preferences.
Anyhow, glad it's working for you.
Post by: kps on December 09, 2003, 11:00:17 PM
Here's the whole monthly script:
CODE
#!/bin/sh -
#
# @(#)monthly 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/9/93
#
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
host=`hostname -s`
echo ""
echo "Doing login accounting:"
if type sort>/dev/null; then
ac -p | sort -nr +1
else
ac -p
fi
echo ""
echo -n "Rotating log files:"
cd /var/log
for i in wtmp install.log; do
if [ -f "${i}" ]; then
echo -n " $i"
if [ -x /usr/bin/gzip ]; then gzext=".gz"; else gzext=""; fi
if [ -f "${i}.3${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.3${gzext}" "${i}.4${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}.2${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.2${gzext}" "${i}.3${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}.1${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.1${gzext}" "${i}.2${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}.0${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.0${gzext}" "${i}.1${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}" ]; then mv -f "${i}" "${i}.0" && if [ -x /usr/bin/gzip ]; then gzip -9 "${i}.0"; fi; fi
touch "${i}" && chmod 640 "${i}" && chown root:admin "${i}"
fi
done
if [ -f /var/run/syslog.pid ]; then kill -HUP $(cat /var/run/syslog.pid | head -1); fi
echo ""
if [ -f /etc/monthly.local ]; then
echo ""
echo "Running monthly.local:"
sh /etc/monthly.local
fi
#
# @(#)monthly 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/9/93
#
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
host=`hostname -s`
echo ""
echo "Doing login accounting:"
if type sort>/dev/null; then
ac -p | sort -nr +1
else
ac -p
fi
echo ""
echo -n "Rotating log files:"
cd /var/log
for i in wtmp install.log; do
if [ -f "${i}" ]; then
echo -n " $i"
if [ -x /usr/bin/gzip ]; then gzext=".gz"; else gzext=""; fi
if [ -f "${i}.3${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.3${gzext}" "${i}.4${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}.2${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.2${gzext}" "${i}.3${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}.1${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.1${gzext}" "${i}.2${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}.0${gzext}" ]; then mv -f "${i}.0${gzext}" "${i}.1${gzext}"; fi
if [ -f "${i}" ]; then mv -f "${i}" "${i}.0" && if [ -x /usr/bin/gzip ]; then gzip -9 "${i}.0"; fi; fi
touch "${i}" && chmod 640 "${i}" && chown root:admin "${i}"
fi
done
if [ -f /var/run/syslog.pid ]; then kill -HUP $(cat /var/run/syslog.pid | head -1); fi
echo ""
if [ -f /etc/monthly.local ]; then
echo ""
echo "Running monthly.local:"
sh /etc/monthly.local
fi
Post by: Gary S on December 11, 2003, 04:59:26 PM
I'm running X.2.8, not Panther.
The extensions are as you describe ie., Photoshopp etc. but none of mine are BBEdit and most of them are generic.
I'll do the trash of the Finder prefs again and Quot the Finder and see if that works. I could use Cocktail instead of MacJanitor to run my scripts.
Could I make an Apple script of what you posted as the monthly script and run that?
If so, do you have a daily and weekly or would the monthly take care of them all?
Post by: kps on December 11, 2003, 06:46:35 PM
They must run as root, so I don't know if you want to compromise your machine's security by putting your admin password into an Applescript. Aside from that, they are unix shell scripts and I don't think it's possible to duplicate them in Applescript alone.
The best solution I found is to change the times all three scripts run, to a time when the machine is most likely to be on. So if you check your email, let's say, every day at 9:00AM, then change the daily script to run at 9:15AM from 3:15AM. It'll run in the background and you wont even know it ran...AND there'll be no performance hit either. If you miss a day or even a couple, it's no big deal.
The weekly script is probably the most important and should be run on schedule. This script is set to run at 4:30AM each Saturday. But to be honest I've missed a week or two here and there with no ill effects.
The monthly script, we discussed. It doesn't do a heck of a lot, except for trashing old log files.
I posted the directions on how to change all this before in:
This thread
and This Thread
If you're interested or have further questions, I'll post comprehensive instructions and after you're done, you'll never again need MacJanitor.
Post by: Gary S on December 12, 2003, 06:51:14 AM
I will look at those threads in a minute and see if I can change the times. Just a few minutes ago I ran the MacJanitor Tasks in succession and copied them. Here are the results...I don't know if they will make much sense to you or not but they are kind of self-explanitory as to what they are doing. I don't understand them but you may.
MacJanitor daily tasks
Backing up NetInfo data
Checking subsystem status:
disks:
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/disk0s5 60046560 18147752 41642808 30% /
fdesc 1 1 0 100% /dev
/dev/disk1s9 2096705 402652 1694052 19% /Volumes/OS 9.2
/dev/disk1s10 1048327 8487 1039840 0% /Volumes/Scratch Disk
/dev/disk1s11 6290159 77039 6213120 1% /Volumes/Other System
/dev/disk1s12 15725333 1191363 14533970 7% /Volumes/Applications Disk
/dev/disk1s13 14976829 2859627 12117202 19% /Volumes/Backup Disk
Last dump(s) done (Dump '>' file systems):
mail:
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 93: fileclass: cannot open '/etc/mail/local-host-names': Group writable directory
network:
Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll
lo0 16384 <Link#1> 2880 0 2880 0 0
lo0 16384 localhost ::1 2880 - 2880 - -
lo0 16384 fe80:1::1 fe80:1::1 2880 - 2880 - -
lo0 16384 127 localhost 2880 - 2880 - -
gif0* 1280 <Link#2> 0 0 0 0 0
stf0* 1280 <Link#3> 0 0 0 0 0
en0 1500 <Link#4> 00:03:93:1c:ac:c4 11 8 76 0 0
en0 1500 fe80:4::203 fe80:4::203:93ff: 11 - 76 - -
en0 1500 192.168.0 192.168.0.100 11 - 76 - -
en0 1500 (16)00:00:ff:82:2d 11 8 76 0 0
Rotating log files: system.log
Cleaning web server log files:
Done
MacJanitor Weekly tasks
Subject: Admin weekly run output
Rebuilding locate database:
Rebuilding whatis database:
Rotating log files: ftp.log lookupd.log lpr.log mail.log netinfo.log
Done
MacJanitor Monthly Tasks
Subject: Admin monthly run output
Doing login accounting:
total 0.00
Rotating log files: wtmp
Done
MacJanitor run all tasks
Subject: Admin.local. daily run output
Removing scratch and junk files:
Backing up NetInfo data
Checking subsystem status:
disks:
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/disk0s5 60046560 18147784 41642776 30% /
fdesc 1 1 0 100% /dev
/dev/disk1s9 2096705 402652 1694052 19% /Volumes/OS 9.2
/dev/disk1s10 1048327 8487 1039840 0% /Volumes/Scratch Disk
/dev/disk1s11 6290159 77039 6213120 1% /Volumes/Other System
/dev/disk1s12 15725333 1191363 14533970 7% /Volumes/Applications Disk
/dev/disk1s13 14976829 2859627 12117202 19% /Volumes/Backup Disk
Last dump(s) done (Dump '>' file systems):
mail:
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 93: fileclass: cannot open '/etc/mail/local-host-names': Group writable directory
network:
Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll
lo0 16384 <Link#1> 5004 0 5004 0 0
lo0 16384 localhost ::1 5004 - 5004 - -
lo0 16384 fe80:1::1 fe80:1::1 5004 - 5004 - -
lo0 16384 127 localhost 5004 - 5004 - -
gif0* 1280 <Link#2> 0 0 0 0 0
stf0* 1280 <Link#3> 0 0 0 0 0
en0 1500 <Link#4> 00:03:93:1c:ac:c4 20 156 99 0 0
en0 1500 fe80:4::203 fe80:4::203:93ff: 20 - 99 - -
en0 1500 192.168.0 192.168.0.100 20 - 99 - -
en0 1500 (16)00:00:ff:82:2d 20 156 99 0 0
Rotating log files: system.log
Cleaning web server log files:
Done
Subject: Admin weekly run output
Rebuilding locate database:
Rebuilding whatis database:
Rotating log files: ftp.log lookupd.log lpr.log mail.log netinfo.log
Done
Subject: Admin monthly run output
Doing login accounting:
total 0.00
Rotating log files: wtmp
Done
Post by: kps on December 12, 2003, 06:30:18 PM
A lot of what those scripts do is completely irrelevant to the average Mac user. FTP logs are only relavent if you're using your Mac as an FTP server, mail is only relavent if you turned on sendmail, which is off by default, it has nothing at all to do with the Mail application or your email from your ISP....'whatis' database is important if you're using the CLI to find unix commands, etc. Most of those logs will be empty, but there are also relavent logs and relavent processes, such as backing up the netinfo database.
Anyway, if you want to change when cron runs these scripts, let me know.
Post by: kps on December 15, 2003, 06:07:01 PM
Check this out:
http://www.macworld.com/2003/12/secrets/handson/
Post by: Gary S on December 16, 2003, 04:25:21 PM
I'm going to try that CronniX amd see if I can set it to do the tasks at different times.
Post by: Gary S on December 16, 2003, 09:22:53 PM
Post by: kps on December 16, 2003, 11:48:52 PM
http://www.koch-schmidt.de/cronnix/download.html
Make sure you're downloading the .dmg and not the .dmg.gz file.
I never used it, so I had a look at it. From trying the app I would recommend that you be careful editing the system cron file and don't create any user cron files. Cronnix, by default, will open a new blank crontab file under your user name. If you save it, cron will try to run it and the system crontab file. If there are no commands in the user crontab, you may start logging error messages in Console.
To make changes to the system crontab, open it from: Menu bar-->File-->Open System Crontab. You'll be prompted for the admin passwd.
I still think the safest and easiest way to change system files is in the Terminal... these GUI front ends tend to obfuscate things to the degree where it's easier to make a mistake there than in the CLI.
Post by: Gary S on December 17, 2003, 07:00:35 PM
KPS,
I know what you mean about the obfuscation, even if I haven't heard the word obfuscate used in a long time.
It looks like I could reeeeely screw things up with that CronniX.
Maybe it's time I should start to learn about using the Terminal. I can't screw anything up there....right.
I guess they call it the Terminal for a reason.
Post by: pendragon on December 17, 2003, 08:43:45 PM
Harv
Post by: kps on December 17, 2003, 09:07:26 PM
QUOTE
Maybe it's time I should start to learn about using the Terminal. I can't screw anything up there....right.
The reason I think it's safer to use term, is that YOU remain in control, rather than an application to which you "hand over" the control when you type in that admin passwd...
Cronnix is relatively simple and safe in terms of changing the time values, so go ahead Gary, you'll be fine...just don't change any other values.
Post by: Gary S on December 18, 2003, 11:07:56 AM
thanks KPS!