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Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: chrisharjo on December 28, 2003, 10:19:54 PM

I read a post at the EveryMac fourm that the Mac OS can run on some Toshiba laptops. Is this possible? I didn't think PC hardware was compatiable without a emulator like Baslik for the Mac OS.

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: Paddy on December 28, 2003, 11:08:28 PM

Chris, that guy (I read the post) doesn't really know what he's talking about. You can't run the Mac OS on a PC without an emulator of some sort, and as far as I know, there are no recent ones - though someone may wish to correct me there. Couldn't find anything via Google though, or on the lists of emulators I did find. Mac-on-Linux is the only emulator capable of running anything newer than OS 8 - and there doesn't appear to be anything at all for OS X, though I wouldn't be surprised if someone is hard at work on OS X for Linux. (You would think that might be the easiest port of all...but obviously not, since there isn't one yet!)

http://www.emaculation.com/ppc.php
http://www.macwindows.com/emulator.html
http://balder.prohosting.com/newtonip/mac.html

BTW - there have been rumors for several years that Apple has a port of OS X running on PC's, deep in the heart of 1 Infinite Loop, but who knows? Remember - Apple is a hardware company. They make their money selling hardware, not operating systems.

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: chrisharjo on December 29, 2003, 12:30:45 AM

Thanks for confirming what I thought, but it is always good to get a second opinion if you are unsure or to confirm what you thought was right.

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: cdub1988 on December 29, 2003, 08:44:35 AM

QUOTE

Mac-on-Linux is the only emulator capable of running anything newer than OS 8 - and there doesn't appear to be anything at all for OS X, though I wouldn't be surprised if someone is hard at work on OS X for Linux.

MOL supports X.1 through X.2.4 currently.

I don't run it because I've already got Linux, so I could use it with 9.2 on this box if needed.

Here's the details.

Take care, all.

Chris

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: Paddy on December 29, 2003, 10:17:23 AM

Thanks for the further illumination, Chris - I couldn't find recent references, but didn't do a search on Mac-on-Linux, which might have turned it up. Interesting. I could turn ALL my 'puters into Macs!!!

Of course, I'd have to teach mice-elf LINUX first...(to say nothing of learning a heck of a lot more about the dark side in general!)

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: cdub1988 on December 29, 2003, 10:26:28 AM

QUOTE

Interesting. I could turn ALL my 'puters into Macs!!!

Unfortunately, since MOL isn't a "true" emulator (has direct disk access to the OS), it would only run with Linux/ppc versions that run on ppc hardware.

As far as running MacOS on Windows, I've only seen this one.

Might check out Bochs or one of the others to see if you could use that.....not sure about it, though.

Take care.

Chris

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: kelly on December 29, 2003, 10:38:39 AM

I don't  see that this runs on a PC.  

"Q:Does it run on i386 hardware?

No, MOL can only run on PowerPC hardware since no emulation is performed."

What PCs use PowerPC hardware?  

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: cdub1988 on December 29, 2003, 10:44:44 AM

Kelly -

Sorry, I must have missed the edit to my post before you posted....

You're right - it doesn't run on anything but ppc.....

Take care.

Chris

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: tacit on December 29, 2003, 05:08:06 PM

PC computers can not run MacOS.

PC computers can run Darwin, the version of BSD Unix that sits beneath MacOS X. They cannot, however, run MacOS X programs, use the MacOS X user interface ("Aqua"), run Classic, or run Carbon applications. In short, they will only run specially-compiled BSD programs.

For technical reasons, emulating a RISC processor such as a PowerPC processor on a CISC processor such as an Intel processor is extremely challenging. It would be possible to write a Mac emulator that emulated a PowerPC Mac for a PC, but it would be very difficult, and it would run very slowly. Worse, it would require licensing Apple's Open Firmware, which is protected by copyright law.

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: () on December 30, 2003, 09:03:38 PM

HAPPY NEW Year to all of you....

Paddy, Mac is Hardware, but Mac is also software.  Apple is taking the leap into designing programs such as iTunes and soon Safari for the PC users.  Also rumors have it that Apple and IBM will be running a version of Mac OS X on the PC in the future.

Apple Steve Jobs sees the ability to not only profit from hardware, but as well with software.

Once Apple offers a stable OS for the PC users, goodbye Windows and Bill Gates cheap versions of Apple OS's.

The G5 computer is the beginning of a change for Mac hardware.

I see the future of Mac taking over the industry and doing things right.

I want Apple to be where it should be... in every home and business.

There is Darwin for the PC users if they wish to buy or download it.

I want MAC OS X on my PC and nothing else.  Windows have shattered and people are jumping out to a new world of OS's and there are los to go for, and soon it will be MAC OS X running on the PC computers in the homes across AMERICA and the globe.

APPLE RULES!    

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: () on December 30, 2003, 09:06:06 PM

MAC OS X places to check out and to learn about....


enjoy all!

Title: Mac OS and PC hardware
Post by: () on December 30, 2003, 09:07:20 PM

here's the site to check out...

http://msxml.excite.com/info.xcite/search/...%2BMac%2BOS%2BX