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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: chrisharjo on December 28, 2003, 11:45:59 PM
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Help my OS 8.6 finder keeps crashing I even put in the Chakaranda'sFinder8.6patch and it still crashes it is random and just start 2 days ago. Here is my ASP report if that helps:
Software overview
Mac OS overview
Finder: 8.6
System: 8.6 US
Active enabler: None
At Ease: Not installed
QuickTime: 6.0.2
File sharing: is off
Startup device
Name: MacHD1
Type: Hard drive
Location: ID = 0
Bus: SCSI Bus 0
Memory overview
Disk cache: 7.96 MB
Virtual memory: is off
Built-in memory: 576 MB
Location Size Memory type
B4 128 MB DIMM
A4 16 MB DIMM
B3 64 MB DIMM
A3 16 MB DIMM
B2 128 MB DIMM
A2 32 MB DIMM
B1 128 MB DIMM
A1 64 MB DIMM
External L2 cache: Not installed
Hardware overview
Machine ID: 69
Model name: Power Macintosh 8600 series
Keyboard type: Apple Extended Keyboard
Processor info: PowerPC G3
Machine speed: 400 MHz
FPU: Built-in
Devices and Volumes
USB 0 1.4.1
Best Data 56USB V.90 Modem
Product ID: 29810 ($7472)
Vendor: Vendor 5014 (Best Data )
Driver version: 1.0d1
Driver name: Smart One 56USB Modem
Power (mA): 500 ($1f4)
Serial number:
Mouse (Trackball)
Product ID: -15358 ($c402)
Vendor: Logitech Inc. (Logitech)
Driver version: 1.4.1
Driver name: USBHIDMouseDriver
Power (mA): 500 ($1f4)
Serial number:
SCSI Bus 0
ID = 0
Hard drive
Driver version: 8.1.2f1
Mac OS partitions: 1
Removable media: No
Vendor: SEAGATE
Revision number: 0720
Product ID: ST15230W SUN4.2G
Serial number:
Unformatted size: 4 GB
MacHD1
Volume format: Mac OS Standard (HFS)
Size: 4 GB
Space Available: 3.17 GB
Percent full: 20
Write protected: No
Is being file shared: No
ID = 1
Hard drive
Driver version: 8.1.2f1
Mac OS partitions: 1
Removable media: No
Vendor: QUANTUM
Revision number: 300Z
Product ID: FIREBALL_TM2100S
Serial number: 399705667291
Unformatted size: 2 GB
Mac HD2
Volume format: Mac OS Standard (HFS)
Size: 2 GB
Space Available: 1.26 GB
Percent full: 36
Write protected: No
Is being file shared: No
ID = 3
CD-ROM drive
Driver version: Not available
Mac OS partitions: 0
Removable media: Yes
Vendor: MATSHITA
Revision number: 1.0g
Product ID: CD-ROM CR-8012
Serial number:
No mounted media inserted
ID = 5
Removable media
Driver version: Not available
Mac OS partitions: 0
Removable media: Yes
Vendor: IOMEGA
Revision number: E.11
Product ID: ZIP 100
Serial number:
No mounted media inserted
SCSI Bus 1
ID = 0
Hard drive
Driver version: 8.1.2f1
Mac OS partitions: 1
Removable media: No
Vendor: QUANTUM
Revision number: 24A4
Product ID: LIGHTNING 730S
Serial number: 227518623493
Unformatted size: 699 MB
external
Volume format: Mac OS Standard (HFS)
Size: 698.73 MB
Space Available: 644.60 MB
Percent full: 7
Write protected: No
Is being file shared: No
Slot
Vendor: HP
Revision number: 3503
Product ID: C2520A
Serial number:
PCI
Slot $A1
USB card
Card type: usb
Card name: pci1045,c861
Card model: Not available
Card ROM #: Not available
Card revision: 16
Card vendor ID: 1045
Floppy
No mounted media inserted
Video
Display
Screen Size (pixels): 1024 x 768
Grays/Colors: Millions
Resolution (dpi): 72 x 72
Additional Information: Main screen
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First line of attack is to trash finder, ASLM, Mac OS and system preferences.
Run disk first aid.
Try disconnecting any peripherals while working.
Do anything different two days ago, like add some software?
Any particular reason you aren't running OS 9? I know 8.6 was very stable but if you are running newer apps they may be happier with 9.
BTW, you may try interleaving your Ram by placing them in matching pairs, that is, putting two 128 chips in A1, B1, two 64 chips in A2, B2 and so on. This is not in response to the crashing problem but may give you an added boost in speed.
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for the suggestions, I will try the Ram thing. I run 8.6 because I have the full version 8.5 cd been looking for a cheap up grade to 9.1, the holidays have drained the wallet for a couple of monthes and I plan on getting a Motherboard up grade for my Performa 6400 and maybe a desktop G3 266mhz. Looks like I will have to reinstall again, the last thing I did a week ago was fix some bad sectors on the hard drive and reinstall the OS, I did a low level format before reinstall. Were can I save the bookmarks for IE 5.1?
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Christopher. Have you done anything about the OS 8.6 Font problems?

Mentioned here.
http://www.macworld.com/1999/10/secrets/secrets/
A fix can be found here.
http://askal.asecureserver.com:591/FMPro?-...99&-Max=1&-find
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You can get OS 9.1 for $39.99

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm...&Item=APLOS91CD
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Maybe a bad RAM chip? I agree with the OS9 upgrade suggestion, too..
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Are you using Norton DiskLight, ACTION Files or ACTION Menus? They are known to cause Finder crashes under 8.6.
Have you tried running with only Apple extensions enabled? If that solves your problem, you have a bad third-party extension or control panel.
Have you installed the OS 8.6 Font Manager Update extension? This is absolutely required if you use 8.6.
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http://www.applerescue.com/catalog.html
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Didn't mention the Font Manager cause I figured you would have done that by now but I guess I shouldn't assume such things.
As for the favorites from IE, you can save the file which is located in the System folder/Preferences/Explorer. In fact you could save the whole folder but not the cache.
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Thanks for the help! I did a reinstall and reinstalled my applications working fine right now. I tried everything suggest but no success or sleep. I am going to try the RAM setup suggested earlier and I will post the results.
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Don't forget to fix those Fonts. Seriously.
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Chris,
When did you install Chakaranda's Mac OS 8.6 Finder Patch? I don't know what it exactly is but
from what I read on the MacWorld site, it modifies the Finder in some way. You may want to get rid of that.
I would make sure you apply that Font Manager update... it's real important. You mat want to run "Corrupted FOND Fixer Utility" - you can get it at Alsoft in Kelly' link:
Alsoft Fond Fixer and Font manager update
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IMO. That Finder Patch is harmless Gary.
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Well then that ain't it Kelly.