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Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: jjoan on February 03, 2004, 11:01:42 AM
I remember when TechTool Pro 4.0.1 came out it wasn't very well received. I need to defragment my hard drive. Should I use it? Or should I use my old one for System 9? Do I have to boot up from the TechTool disk? Also, to repair permissions do I need to boot up from the Jaguar CD? Thank you, Joan
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: kelly on February 03, 2004, 11:12:08 AM
In Jaguar you can Repair Permissions from Disk Utility. smile.gif

No need to boot from the CD for that.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61352

Not familiar with TTPro 4.x

How do you know you need to Defragment the Hard Drive? smile.gif

http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial.html
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: jjoan on February 03, 2004, 01:12:02 PM
It seems that my computer is running slow and I thought defragmenting the hard drive would help it out???? No?-Joan
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: bobw on February 03, 2004, 01:23:59 PM
TechTool Pro 4.0.1 works very well on OS X.
No need to defrag in OS X from everything i've read.
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: Himrich on February 03, 2004, 01:42:18 PM
Great article about defragging here.

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003...aintenance.html

Probably not necessary according to this chap and he offers many other solutions for fixing a Mac on MacOS X.
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: pendragon on February 03, 2004, 02:20:32 PM
With regard to TTP 4.0.1 (only) and FWIW:

I am one of those not overly enamored with TTP 4.0.1. Others, however, are using it quite successfully on both Jag and Panther. In my case, I was getting too many false positives, with erratic and conflicting findings. I also had a few kernel panics with it (this also a bit unusual, but not unknown).

Should you wish to review other opinions, the MacFixIt Utilities Forum has some lively discussions on TTP. http://www.macfixitforums.com/php/postlist...oard=xutilities

All that said, I am still a TTP fan, but will wait for the next updater.

And oh yeah, I am sadly aware that a poor carpenter always blames his tools (or Bernie). Devilish2.gif

Harv
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: jjoan on February 03, 2004, 03:24:35 PM
Thank you everyone, I'll leave well enough alone.--Joan
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: CyberPet on February 03, 2004, 04:34:34 PM
Mac OS X will create fragments on the harddrive, regardless of what people say. Simple reason is: HFS+

You will experiense LESS fragmentation with UFS, but there's still diskfragmentation on any system, regardless of what Apple says. More with HFS+ than with UFS, but still there.

Proof? Yes, I just have to mention the over 3,000 diskfragments I found with Drive 10 and the over 5,000 file fragments after just a few weeks after defragmenting after the install of Panther. The speed did improve after the defragment and also the fans ran less on my Powerbook since the reader head on the disk didn't have to jump all over the place.
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: geodon005 on February 03, 2004, 06:54:12 PM
This link is MUST reading about defragging: http://www.macfixitforums.com/php/showflat...sb=5&o=&fpart=1

And I am a huge TTP 4.0.1 fan. . . always works like a charm for me.


Don
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: CyberPet on February 03, 2004, 07:50:23 PM
Drive 10 is from Micromat that also create TechTool Pro. Before TTP4 came out Drive 10 was the only diskfragment software running OS X that was out there.

Only problem I see with any of them is that it's slow to defragment an OS X drive.... first time you do it it can take a whole night. If you do it regulary, say once a month it takes about 2 hrs.
Title: Defragment 'n' repair permissions
Post by: kelly on February 03, 2004, 09:33:42 PM
Defrag or not, whatever you decide, run Repair Permisssions. smile.gif

If you haven't done it for a while it's probably needed. smile.gif

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106844