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Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: brensun on March 09, 2003, 06:51:00 PM: first boot up / car crash/ 2nd car crash/ 3rd nothing / 4th computer on . but very slow. but mine is slow anyway. But not that slow. has not been on while any storms have been passing throw.I do know i need an-up-grade.butttt!!!!!!. love brenda
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: kelly on March 09, 2003, 07:20:00 PM: Brenda. Did you mean to post a Poll?

That sound means serious trouble.

Check out this link.

http://www.macworld.com/2000/10/howto/stopped.html
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: Jay on March 09, 2003, 07:21:00 PM: I don't think I get it. What is the car crash sound?
Jay

[ 03-09-2003, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: Jay ]
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: neokm on March 09, 2003, 07:40:00 PM: On the brite-side, no-one got hurt.

What are you operating on and with??
Mike
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: krissel on March 09, 2003, 10:52:00 PM: Did it sound like this?

Most likely it is hardware related, in particular RAM.

quote:
Hardware Self-Testing Hardware is initialized by invoking different "managers" that live in ROM. The first manager to be invoked is the Start Manager, which resides in the Macintosh Operating System ROM. The Start Manager verifies that all hardware components on the logic board are working. Start Manager continues the startup sequence by initiating tests of CPU, ROM, drives, ports, expansion slots (NuBus and PCI), and finally RAM. The startup chord, or boot tone, indicates this step is successful; this sound is in ROM. Also, the raster (gray desktop) appears on the screen, along with the pointer. If something happens to interrupt the startup sequence at this point, you hear a series of tones (called "error tones" or "death chimes"). Different Macintosh computers sound different tones to identify various problems.
More here

Last time I got a sound like that, but abbreviated somewhat, was when I was swapping RAM chips and trying to get PCI cards to work. Removed a memory chip and all was OK.
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: Roadguy on March 10, 2003, 12:13:00 AM: I agree with the last post. The car crash sound usually means a RAM problem. The chips may be bad or may be just loose.

Is this Mac an early PowerPC?
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: jepinto on March 10, 2003, 05:35:00 AM: Brensun has a 6100 upgraded to G3/300 via NuBus Sonnet card, running 8.6, 136 Ram (or 128-this is my memory going bad!)

We had a problem awhile back with an error message at startup about ram.

That's strange! I remember it as a 6100, and the posts all say 7100.....
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: jepinto on March 10, 2003, 05:50:00 AM: Since it has 4 memory slots (don't I wish! I did!) it must be a 7100.

Any reason not to go with 64M SIMMs? I know Apple says up to 32's, but....

[ 03-10-2003, 06:53 AM: Message edited by: jepinto ]
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: kelly on March 10, 2003, 09:56:00 AM: Jennie. Some RAM limits are because the bigger RAM wasn't around then.

For the 7100 it looks like 32 MB RAM was the limit.

This limitation is built into the motherboard.

It's all about Memory banks, Memory Controllers and other Geeky stuff.

The physical "wiring" on the Motherboard only supports so much RAM.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/ram/pack_Banks.htm

OWC usually shows all the RAM you can get. They only show up to 32 MBs.

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm...tem=OWC72PS32MB
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: jepinto on March 10, 2003, 02:28:00 PM: Thanks Kelly! Looks like BrendaLou is getting new ram this week.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's not your name brensun but hey, I'm old and only only remember two thinks at once.
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: jepinto on March 10, 2003, 03:10:00 PM: And I forgot to say Thank you to all who diagnosed the problem.

Brensun is my bowling buddy, and I'm her 'puter buddy. She won't tell y'all how bad I bowl and I won't tell y'all about her and the hair dryer cure.
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: brensun on March 10, 2003, 07:45:00 PM: I thank each and everyone for there help . I do have a 7100/80. I think my mom has burnt the ram because she arrived for a vist 1-12-03 & going back to Maryland 3-15-03. She has been on 24/7 & pulling her E-Mail from her computer.(OH) buy the way this is how you can dry your hair real quik,( aouuuuuupa) hope i spelled that right but prombley not. If you ever try and do your own greek flamming cheese (cut back on the OUZU). The Flame will dry your hair in a instent. love all brensun
Title: sound of car crashing
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 10, 2003, 09:22:00 PM: You think a 7100/80 is slow?! Try a 7100/66!

I guess what you don't know won't hurt you! I've got 2 32M and 2 8M chips in it, Total of 88M (comes with 8 on the mother board). Along with the whopping 250MB HD, it's a slow game machine for the grandkids. But now that they want to access the Cartoon Network games, it may be spinning its last disks! There is no way to make it access and display all that Flash content. It's becomeing a large boat anchor, and I don't have a boat!

Jim C.