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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: csonni on March 27, 2003, 08:31:00 PM
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I'll be doing a reformat to change partition sizes. I forgot what I installed first on my drive before. Should one first install OS9 for Classic, or should OSX go on first? I will be putting each System on a different partiton.
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I know I've seen the answer to this posted on this board before. It's something about what you want to occupy the beginning of your disk. I just don't remember.
One of these days, I'll move to OSX or OSXI. But by then, you won't need Classic.
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Should you do the OSX first, and reformat with the OSX CD, be sure to make sure that the option to install the OS9 drivers is selected. (I think it is by default.)
I could be wrong, but I don't think it matters which you OS you install first, but I think the first/largest partion should be reserved for OSX.
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Unfortunately, it DOES matter which OS you install first. At least it was in my case twice.
Just had it last week with a friend of mine who got a copy of Jaguar. He asked me to help him install it. I suggested a clean install and therefore, after initializing the HD we started with OS X 10.2. It installed without any problems.
However, when we tried to install OS 9 thereafter, we ended up with having to initialize the HD again. The problem was that when booting from the OS 9 CD the HD was not recognized by OS 9 as it was formated by the OS X installer CD. I know, it should be compatible, but it wasn't. I had the same problem before when installing OS X 10.1 on my computer.
So, in the end, we installed OS 9 and afterwards installed OS X. Took us about 4 hours because of that problem.
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Step one: put in your OS9 disk and run "Drive Setup" and partition with the the HDD. Then install OS9x on the partition you want it on (probably the second partition).
Then put in the OSX CD and install OSX just like
Spartacus suggested. Make sure you check the box for updating the OS9 drivers, like Rob said.
I'm going to be doing the same thing soon.
I've been reading some books and i think what i'm going to do is put a OS9x on a separate partition and then put OSX.2 and a stipped down version of OS9.2.2 (Classic) on the first partition.
Then I could boot to a strictly OS9x when I want to.
Mine is a duel boot machine.
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I don't quite get the "stripped-down" version for Classic. What I did was install X on one partition and 9.2.2 on the other. I used that one as Classic as well. I noticed that if booting into 9 and disabling certain extensions, Classic booting up later would require something and, i guess, reinstalled it? Why install another OS9, when you could used your booting 9 for Classic?
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csonni,
Sorry, I've been away in madison all day.
From what I'm reading, the sripped down version of Classic is one that will run on the same partition as X but you can disable alot of extensions because OSX takes care of alot of stuff while Classic is running along side OSX. Your running OSX and you open a Classic application and Classic launches along side OSX.
From the way I understand it you really don't even know your in Classic because OSX is doing alot of the work. It's kind of confusing to try for me to explain because I don't understand it all to well yet.
You can do it either way though. I'll be back tommorrow with a clearer head. I just drove 300 miles and ....I'm tired.
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Csonni,
Mine is set up the same way yours is--I just use my old 9.2.2 for Classic on one partition [the second] and X on the other [the first]--works great!! The Pogue book, "The Missing Manual" tells you what extensions you can do without because X is virtually running the system. Because of his recommendations, I disabled them and saved it as a separate set labeled, of all things, "Classic"
If I need to boot into 9.2.2 and need it 'all', I just start up with the 'Standard' set but thankfully find myself doing that less and less frequently. Sounds like you're on the right track--let us know how it all plays out for you. Good luck!!
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Sunset, I have mine set up the same way as you do. (Didn't bother with a "stripped down OS9 to go with OSX.)
I didn't bother setting up a special set of extensions yet, and for now it's not been an issue during those few times where I have to boot into OS9.
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In earlier times it made sense to set it up with two OS 9 systems. OS X was new and fresh...and buggy.
Those wanting to protect their "production" system would often create a third partition for a stripped down version of the OS to be used as "classic" while experimenting with OS X.
I've had that until 10.1.? (can't recall the exact version) when OS X became, more-or-less, my primary system.
Presently, I only have one OS 9 installed on the tower and the Powerbook doesn't even have a separate install of OS 9.
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Mine is also set up as stated by above no name and sunsets.
When I fire up classic (not very often) I have it aimed at another partition that 9.2.2. sits.
Although booting into that partition works better [for me] than classic.
Why? I've no idea. Just does.
HEY Kps snuck in a post on me!
[ 03-31-2003, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: Bill ]
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Do what they say. I'm just a kid with OSX.2.
What I mean is I just started using X.
What I was getting at was the fact that OSX and Classic have the ability to reside on the same partition.
I think I'm going to do what the rest of you did and just put each in a separate partition and be done with it.
Anyways, there's 2 ways of setting it up.
[ 03-31-2003, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: Gary S ]