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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: kelly on April 10, 2003, 12:08:00 PM
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Available soon. Or buy the CD for $20. Not.
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2003/04/10.10.shtml
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/0...04/10/updatecd/
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Maybe it will be available via Software Update by the time I return home from work tonight!
Wouldn't that be !!
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I'm shocked that Harv hasn't downloaded it and given it a full review yet. (He'll probably post it during the time it took me to write this.)
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I'm on it now. It's available via software update. 39.9MB in size, Software Update lists this:
The 10.2.5 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: AirPort, Bluetooth, Classic compatibility, FireWire, Graphics, Image Capture, Mail, and OpenGL.
The update includes improvements to AFP, web services, dial-up connections over PPP, and Windows file services, as well as audio, disc recording, graphics, and printing improvements.
The update also provides updated security services and includes the latest security updates.
For detailed information on this update, please visit this website:
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25405
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Rob, CorrectoMundo! The DL (39.9 MB) took 11 minutes and requires a restart. The new build is 6L29. The entire process was fault free on my DP 800.
The subsequent restart seemed to take longer than usual. Apparently this to be expected with a new OS. For sure it was long enough to have a heart attack.
I rebuilt permissions (now # 32261) and then ran fsck -y. Again, all was normal. The subsequent restart was routine, at least it seemed much quicker than the first (but I do not objectively know this.)
Internet access (via Airport) and printing both work as expected. Everything else looks much as it did, but of course I won't know if there are any gotchas until I have launched all the different applications. But so far, another Attaboy for Steve.
Harv
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Just before I had to leave for work earlier today, like at 11:45 AM, I clicked Software Update.
Of course, the upgrade was ready for downloading.
So, I stuck around and let 'er rip. The only consequence was that the updater broke the driver for my WACOM tablet.
I got on the phone with WACOM tech support and the guy guided me to the latest driver update at their web site. He didn't know whether it would work or not because Apple didn't allow them enough time to test things before releasing OS 10.2.5.
It worked and all is well.
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Greetings!
Incredible! I just installed 10.2.3 last night and it appears, by your comments, that It is already outdated??!!
I am having an opportunity come up with my upgrade. the problem is that when I tried to re0load the applications I get an unusal response..."Looking for OS 9.2..."
The computer is a beige PowerPC G3 6GBHD, 133 RAM, 300MHz using now OS V 10.2.3
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
JCG
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JCG. Hello.
It's always a good idea to Repair Permissions with the OS X Disk Utility.
http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial.html#A...chor-Slow-29754
http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial.html
I've also seen it suggested to Repair Permissions before the Upgrade.
A Standalone Download of 10.2.5
http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/8848
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Hmmmm.
Do I need to keep OS 9.X on my computer to trouble shoot OS X??
JCG
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You need OS 9.x to run some Utilities.
Depends what you have.
Why would you or anyone feel the need to get rid of OS 9.x?
Takes up a few hundred MBs and doesn't hurt anything.
If you don't need to use Classic, fine.
Chances are you'll need it one in a while.
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What's new in 10.2.5 (from VersionTracker)
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Bluetooth Setup Assistant now works with certain Microsoft keyboards and mouse devices.
* Includes Bluetooth support for Nokia 7650 and P800 phones.
* Improves compatibility for discs burned with certain Panasonic consumer burners.
* Adds Image Capture support for Canon EOS 10D, ZR65, and ZR 70 cameras.
* Adds disc burning support for several device-LaCie d2 DVD Multi U&I Drive and d2 CD-RW 52x24x52x, Visual Frontier COHH-B1-A48 and COSP-B1-C24, MacPower Cold Chisel 24x12x24x8x, and these BUSlink devices: FW5252FM FireWire 52x24x52x CD-RW drive, FW4848FM FireWire 48x12x48x CD-RW Drive, RW4040FM FireWire 40x12x40 CD-RW Drive.
* Addresses an issue in which domain name lookups could fail if the DNS server responded with a very large reply packet.
* Improves the way that LDAPv3 connections time out when idle.
* Addresses a potential data loss issue that could occur when copying certain files to an SMB volume.
* Addresses issues with Internet Sharing when certain types of DSL or cable modem connections are shared.
* Improves security by resolving an issue in which a guest could gain read access to the contents of a shared Drop Box folder remotely.
* The Internet preference pane can now store .Mac passwords that are up to 32 characters long.
* Addresses an issue in which some Apple internal modems could not establish or maintain a connection to certain Scandinavian Internet service providers
* Improves Mail's selection of character encoding for messages sent in these languages: Arabic, Bulgarian, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Polish, Romanian, Russian, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian.
* Improves Mail responsiveness for accounts configured with multiple POP servers, when the servers are unavailable.
* Addresses an issue in which an application could unexpectedly quit when printing, if /tmp was missing or unavailable.
* Addresses an issue in which a damaged GIF file, such as a Web site graphic, could cause an application to unexpectedly quit.
* Addresses an issue in which certain PICT graphics could not be displayed.
* Addresses an issue in which the date may unexpectedly be set to 1969 or 1970 during startup.
* Addresses an issue when using the Hanin input method for Traditional Chinese in which Carbon applications could unexpectedly quit if a modifier key (such as Control) was pressed when no text insertion point was available.
* Addresses an issue in which Classic fails to start ("Error 1016") when applications available to a non-Admin user are restricted.
* Addresses an issue in which the Classic environment could become unresponsive after placing a Classic application's save confirmation dialog box in the background.
* Addresses an issue in which using the Command-Option-Shift-Q key command would immediately quit the Classic environment.
* Improves the reliability of AppleEvents traffic (inter-application communication) between software running in the Classic environment and native Mac OS X; addresses an issue in which a user might not be able to logout after using a Mac OS 9 version of America Online (AOL).
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Saw this note.
"On certain computers, you should set the Displays preferences to the native resolution before installing the Mac OS X 10.2.5 Update. If you do not, temporary video issues may occur when the computer wakes from sleep."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25434
http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2003/04...411121107.shtml
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Don't know about display pref or permissions but once my lawnmower ran out of go go juice,I decided to update the OS on two drives.
Zero problems. Even repair permissions came back fine.
What did it do/update or add? Must be something under the hood cus I can't find any difference.
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From what I've read, it is almost all under the hood, plus a few language issues.
Unlike you brave fellers, I'm reading more, blogging and waiting a bit:
MacFixit MacInTouch.
Seen nothing significant at MacNN yet, but that's where I first saw the solution to the major modem glitch 10.2.4 threw at me.
This one seems safe, but I'm also waiting on pendragon's "gotchas".
Kelly, Bill, you're going like the wind now you're "Jaguared".
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So far no problems with 10.2.5 here. I read that someone did suggest people to disconnect external monitors that uses other resolutions than your main monitor since that did cause a problem for some while updating.
Then there seem to be some problems with some USB devices that's causing Kernel Panic's. Sure hope those vendors update their drivers.
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No problems (update, printing, external devices, etc - none) on either a Pismo/500mHz/640MB or a G4/467mHz/640MB.
Download (courtesy of PacBell DSL) <4 min, upgrade <7 min.
How do you spell copasetic?
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How do you spell copasetic?
Just like you have it...or...copacetic.
Clay
[ 04-13-2003, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: ClayEM ]
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taliesin. Not sure what you meant.
FWIW. I'm still at 10.2.2 on my main Drive.
Nothing's broke with this setup so I haven't fixed it.
I have 10.2.3 on another Drive but haven't used it much.
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Ah, Kelly, I meant simply the speed at which you took to it.
Didn't realise you were running 10.2.2 and .3, on the wise "if it ain't broke" principle -- and I'm not sure it makes any odds either. I've noticed no substantial improvements with .4.
I may install .5 in the morning. Apple's reference to dealing with the modem issue is but a one-liner. Oddly, there's more about network issues, but that's where I see people reporting the most bugs so far. Plus one or two who say their mice have died...
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I'm on version 10.2.3 must I download 2.4 before I can install 2.5 ?
George
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George, It is not necessary to install 10.2.4 before 10.2.5, but then be certain to DL and install the Combo updater http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120211.
It is larger than the normal update, but it is still smaller than going the 10.24-10.2.5 route, and many report that by using the combo updater, the actual updating is smoother and more trouble free.
Harv
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I had either option and ended up going for the update instead of the combo.
Why? Beats the heck out of me.
Maybe in the back of my head considering I already had 10.2.4 installed on the main and backup drive,plus the fact that they where running just fine .... didn't want any extras installed with the combo that I might of dumped after installing 10.2.4.
OR! It could of been the closest updater my mouse pointer was aiming at the time.
Haven't fired up all my extra moving-part thingies yet but haven't noticed any odd-ball behavior so far with 10.2.5.
OH YEAH. I downloaded both from a dsl line that was hitting 740?? at my local mac dealer.
D/ld both plus a couple of extra smaller d/lds in less than fifteen minutes.
Took all most as long to burn them onto a cdr because their toast was funky city.
[ 04-13-2003, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: Bill ]
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Downloaded Combo X.2.5 at my folks' house last night. Took a speedy 5 hours.
Install went smoothly over X.2 but had to repair permissions before the F1 Championship racing game would work. After doing that it was fine.
However X.2.4 was touted as having support for force feedback with the racing wheels and were disappointed to find no such result after upgrading.
Anyone out there use a MOMO racing wheel successfully with force feedback on X ? (think I will ask this in a thread,also)
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Hi Harv,
Downloaded x10.2.5 (24 mins) what a difference broadband makes from dialup.
Will now wait and see how the benefits 10.2.5 manifest themselves.
Thanks again.
George.
ps.
Good comes to them that wait.
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Went fine.
Ran Harv's routines after fetching the "combo". Also ran DiskWarrior, which found the directory needed quite a bit of work.
Maybe it's pure coincidence, but my iDisk access is faster.
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10.2.5 Update - Kernel Panics due to USB Hub use?
"I don't use a USB hub and updated two macs to 10.2.5 here without any problems, but some readers have seen problems like kernel panics - which one reader wrote to say is reportedly due to using a USB Hub."
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
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Fired up my usb hub after reading your link Kelly.
No problems using it so far. /knock on head
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Currently, I have two 4-port powered USB hubs connected to my FP imac. I updated to OS X 10.2.5 as soon as it became available on Software update. I have had no problems whatsoever. 6 of the eight ports on the hubs are in use as well as both ports on my keyboard (mouse and compactflash reader).
Steve
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The only nit I have noticed (so far) relates to the System Preference for Software Update. I always have the “Automatically Check for updates…” option disabled. As with every other OS update obtained via the software update, the new version always defaults to having the Automatic check enabled for a weekly check.
Harv
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quote:
Originally posted by kelly:
You need OS 9.x to run some Utilities.
Depends what you have.
Why would you or anyone feel the need to get rid of OS 9.x?
Takes up a few hundred MBs and doesn't hurt anything.
If you don't need to use Classic, fine.
Chances are you'll need it one in a while.
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The original OS 9.2 became corrupt and the original CD could not be located. Thought a clean install would be best since I have the combo OS x.2.3
Tried to repair the system (x.2.3) using Disk Aid and turned out to do the same thing as I attempted to re-load the software from CD.
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Getting confusing here.
How about we stick to krissel's repost?
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Only slight oddity I've noticed with 10.2.5 so far is that, under certain circumstances I've yet to pin down, certain apps (e.g. browsers), will "flash up" an unexpected quit notice even when you shut them down normally.
Scarcely anything to worry about...