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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 05, 2003, 10:50:11 PM »

DEEP SIGH  

I've successfully reverted to 10.2.2(a I think it is) and now my resolution is fine, my Classic Environment is fine... and I'm going to bed.  I am so appreciative for all the help.

As for when Apple has a fix for this, I sort of don't think they'll be promoting it when they do!

David

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 05, 2003, 05:46:22 PM »

I will be looking into reverting, I think - as now guess what?  I can't start Classic (OS9) when I'm in the desired resolution.  It started fine up until today when I had a crash where your screen normally goes grey, in a wash from top to bottom, and you get the message in many languages that you need to reboot your computer.  After this, when I do the monitor cable switch trick to adjust the resolution as desired - Classic looks like it's all done starting and then disappears and is not running.  If I don't switch the resolution, and accept the awful one the system picks upon rebooting, Classic starts just fine.

Plus, I am having problems with my keyboard, my DSL connection is batty, and my phones didn't have a dialtone.  I will soon be back to feather pens and parchment and forget all of this silly electronic business

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 02, 2003, 11:16:04 AM »

Oh! I meant to say that despite video settings are no longer stored in PRAM for Mac OS X, I can most certainly confirm that zapping the PRAM _DID_ change how my display looked!  Namely from the vertical stretched condition to the wide margin on all sides condition.  Or wait, am I delusional and did I never restart WITHOUT zapping PRAM.  *brain jiggles*

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 02, 2003, 06:21:32 AM »

If I didn't want folx in my business I'd not have posted.  Reverting sounds perfectly fine to me!  There was nothing wonderful about this update @ all.  And I don't know what made me go on and do it, at 90 MB or some such - I think it was just late and my defenses were down.  The trouble is, I'm clueles on how to revert.  And yup, I did search all messages here!

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 08:18:42 PM »

Here is the rediculous reality:

reboot
resolution reverts
have to pull out DV cable, put in DV-VGA adapter which is hooked to  VGA cable and on the other end to the VGA input of my monitor
switch monitor input to VGA, assure resolution auto-sets to 1600x1200
swap the DV cable back in
switch monitor input back to DV, and the resolution is 1600x1200 with other choices.

But if I reboot again - well there's the cycle.  Seems perty rediculous 2 me.

However, I don't reboot often and my eyes are pleased even if my head is not.

I don't think I've ever have tried this idea on my own.

EDIT: (added this)

Makes me a bit nervous hot swapping video cables..........

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 07:22:37 PM »

Ooops, yes - I see very well how I could have continued from the install CD - didn't have that finer point of the instructions committed to memory!

I tried using an adapter and a VGA cable to connect that to the VGA port on the monitor.  Then got the 1600x1200 resolution set, then w/o restarting I switched back to the DV directly.

Resolution stuck.  I'm afraid to ever reboot now.  But it's lovely seeing a full screen again @ the right resolution!!

Thank you oh so very.  I shall post again once a reboot becomes necessary to let you know if this is a permanent change.

David

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 06:21:31 PM »

Well, I repaired permissions.  And how lame is this - but how do I know (for next time) what my Mac OS X CD-ROM disc is?  I have Install Discs 1&2 and Restore Discs 1-4.  I could boot from Install Disc 1 - and guess what, the resolution LOOKED okay - but I was unsuccessful @ booting from the Restore Disc 1  - and Install Disc 1 wouldn't actually let me do anything.

I also ran fsck -y.

And the Hardware Test CD

And tried SwitchRes X (it only had the one resolution as well)

And looked @ the com.apple.windowserver.plist file.  It has the undesired resolution listed first in the XML.... and the desired one listed 2nd.  I do have some programming exeperience but well... it's a foreign sort of thing, this one, and I'm not sure if my messing with it would be successful.

I have looked @ the site Kelly pointed out from macintouch and found a report of someone having the same problem as me w/ my same monitor... but no solutions as yet.

Am I entitled to have a headache yet? I do!  Nothing's any better w/ the display.

But how about booting to the Install CD gave a nice full screen, no borders, and seemingly fine resolution image?  10.2.1 is the version on my CDs

Thanks everybody......

Sad David

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 03:47:56 PM »

No luck from admin either.  I tried a lesser set of variations, but it's doing nothing any differently.  I think I have the same permissions in the acct I was using vs. admin as far as that sort of setting goes, anyway.

I don't have a copy of DisKWarrior - but can go and look into it.  Could you point me to a primer on repairing permissions an running fsck -y?  In the meantime i'll be snooping around in Help.

thanks again - David

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 03:34:16 PM »

I haven't ever done the steps you mentioned... but am first going to try logging in as the admin user and attempting the fixes suggested before.  Until you said "permissions" I hadn't thought of that!  BRB

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2003 / Are you getting enough fiber?

« on: June 01, 2003, 03:10:02 PM »

I was recently in Brussels on business and remember someone commenting that much of the city is fiber optic ready, but now that they've spend all that money to do it, there seems to be some sort of microwave technology that requires no continuously connected network to achieve results as good.  *shrug*

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 02:31:18 PM »

Thanks for the ideas!  I tried the monitor off trick with any/all combination of the other options in the Display area on/off - even fully unplugging the monitor, then clicking my pre-positioned mouse, and restoring power.  Nothing but the unwanted lower resolution - and ONLY that one - no other choice, appears  

I did find that the vertical stretching I described in my original post was reproducible by changing colors from Millions to Thousands.  And zapping the PRAM seems to be the way to get the border back around all edges of the screen rather than just having a left/right border.

I also located the monitor prefs, display prefs files and put them in the trash while exploring my various combinations.  I still have them in the trash, and have noticed that they haven't been recreated.  The Display Prefs wasn't changed since January 3 2003, but the Monitors Prefs was last altered around the time of the software update.  HMMMMM.  How can I make it recreate, or does someone want to send me their prefs file, maybe?  I'm out of ideas.

Thank you once more.  PLEASE keep them coming.  I'd sooner go back to an earlier OS than deal with my pretty display looking awful like this

-David

EDIT: forgot to say I tried this firmware updater but it told me the software was already in place when I tried.  Mind you I don't think I have the right sort of monitor for it anyway.

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2003 / Wrong resolution after 10.2.6 combined update

« on: June 01, 2003, 12:18:26 PM »

Before last night, I had OS 10.2.2 installed on my G4 Dual 867.  I use a Dell 2000FP LCD monitor, with 1600x1200 resolution.

After the update, I notced some oddities on my screen.  The image was stretched out a bit vertically to fill the screen, but there was black space on the left and right margins.  When I started Eudora (a Classic app) I noticed bluriness and distortion.  Turned off font smoothing and that helped some w/ the blurriness.  Then it hit me - the resolution was off.  Only now, the only choice for resolution I have in System Preferences - Monitors or in OS9 the Monitors Control Panel is 1280x1024.  

I reset the PRAM, and now the image is no longer stretched vertically.  I have a wider border on the left/right than on the top/bottom, but my screen is no longer filled with the image and I'm not sure what to do.

I have it connected via a digital video cable - no adapters on either end of the wire.

Also updated in yesterday's system software stuff were these: iCal, Java, QuickTime, iTunes (just in case).

Ideas please???  The goal is to get back up to 1600x1200.  This computer has the factory installed video card - NVIDIA GeForce4.