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OT: Anti-Telemarketing
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2003, 12:15:26 PM »
Thank you, Thank you THANK YOU!!!  Signed up, confirmation email done!
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2003, 02:02:42 PM »
I'm signed up- all 3 numbers

until 6-30-2008



Finally I can stop telling window salespeople that we use the Macintosh operating system and therefore have no interest in Windows biggrin.gif

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2003, 02:09:55 PM »
QUOTE(sandbox @ Jun 28 2003, 6:11 AM)
and this months special is, HOrizon’s DSL for free if you donate NOW!!!!

SB Horizon is an Organic milk company biggrin.gif - I believe that you are talking of Verizon  

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2003, 03:29:50 PM »
Peter, it was an inside joke "Ho-rizon", peddling their wares about town.


I’m all for stopping the nuisance, but I object to the political and charitable exceptions. nono.gif

Time will tell.....   whistling.gif

edited for political content: SB
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2003, 04:08:30 PM »
That's why I have a message machine, SB!  If you don't talk to it, I don't pick up. . .it's just that simple, except that I have to admit to recently taking GREAT pleasure in answering, and then waiting until I hear them pick up, and then slamming the phone down! whistling.gif  thumbup.gif

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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2003, 05:03:52 PM »
$20 answering machine does wonders doesn't Beacher. smile.gif smile.gif
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2003, 05:54:15 PM »
But - but -

Think what this is going to do to the economy!

How will Americans know what to buy without the help of telemarketing information?

America is now doomed to an ever-decreasing spiral of deflation. Which will just help terrorists.  

All because of this misguided bill.

Americans need to stand up against this bill  in order to fight international terrorism.


You heard it here, first.

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Odd - now that I think about it,  I haven't been getting nearly as many of these calls as I used to.  Perhaps one a week.  Perhaps not.

No calls during dinner in many years.

A decade (?) since I have gotten a call for aluminum siding.

I thought that this was all pretty much a  taken care of issue.

Waddya know!


The calls that I do get:

Typically MCI or AT&T offering me a lower cost deal every six months or so  - which I sometimes take.

The local paper wanting to sell a subscription.  Which I don't take.  And: "Your company is to put me on it's do-not-call list and is to never call me again."

A call from the Police Benevolent Association.  Which I decline.  And: "Please put me on your do-not-call list.  Thank you."


No caller ID.  No answering machine.

I never did bother to sign up for the state do-not-call list.  

But my telephone number is unlisted and I don't hand my telephone number out to commercial enterprises or to non-profit organizations unnecessarily - and I am the judge of what is necessary. For example, I do not give my telephone number to Radio Shack when they are racking up a cash sale and demanding personal information which they have no business knowing.  Or most any nonprofit organization - Sons of the Siberian Desert, or whatever.  I figure that businesses and nonprofit organizations are ALL selling such information to each other, until proven otherwise:  think about it next time you hand your telephone number out to any organization unnecessarily.
 
There is a provision in the previously existing laws that whenever a telephone marketing person calls you you can state "your company is to never call me again," and they have to take you off their calling list.  Which I used to do a lot, and most of the trash calls then just faded away.  So I don't get unwanted repeat calls from the same organization:   e.g., I haven't gotten any telemarketing calls from Sears in a long, long time.


Next step seems to be  to sign up for the national do-not-call list.

But considering the many exceptions in the national do-not-call law and considering the potential for spam calls arising from other countries over cheap Internet telephone connections (maybe that will never materialize - or maybe will we soon be deluged with fifty telephone recordings a day encouraging us to enlarge various portions of our anatomies -  and we will end up bombing Lithuania) - the defenses against such obnoxiousnesses will probably need to remain active and multi-layered.

A whole industry is not going to willingly just curl up and die overnight.


If only half the nation opts out - and employment in the industry is to be maintianed (and even grow) - the other half of the nation will start getting twice the number of unsolicited calls . . .

And the industry can start concentrating its efforts in other nations - kinda like how all the tobacco industry growth is now overseas . . .


If I do get any political recording calls, I may just make it a point to vote against the individual or organization using the technique, and let them know that I did so and why.


I think it is kinda like stepping on a water balloon - what goes down here is gonna  pop up there.

I guess we'll just have to see what happens.


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Epaminondas
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2003, 01:51:25 AM »
The  main loophole will be the provision that companies that have a "relationship" with you can still call. Hence any business you ever bought from will be ringing you up.

About every two weeks I get a call from the largest newspaper in NJ (Star Ledger) asking me if I want the paper for the whole week since I only get it on Sunday. I kindly explain to them over and over that "NO, I don't want it. Besides I didn't even ask to have the Sunday paper delivered. It just comes on its own and would you please stop delivering it".  They ususally say something to the effect that they will pass the word to their supervisor.

The paper is still coming (has for over a year) and never have they sent me a bill.

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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2003, 05:31:51 AM »
The only telemarketing calls we seem to get are those obnoxious computer generated messages and frankly we get few of those.

Spam is more a problem for my wife, she has an address like xxx1@earthlink.net and gets about 100 unsolicitated mails a day.

My address is xxxxxxxxxxxxx@earthlink.net, so I don't get any.