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Offline Bruce_F

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« on: April 05, 2012, 11:25:29 AM »
I know this has been discussed before but my search skills in this forum are pretty lame.

I am considering moving to a solid state drive from OWC. They have clear instructions on the installation process, including the purchase of NewerTech's universal drive adapter.

My question: Is this the best way to go about it? I'm wondering about having to buy a $30 adapter that I'll use once. Can a new drive be installed another way?

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 12:42:57 PM »
Have you searched for what the adaptor actually does and why it's needed? From my brief looking, it appears to be simply a problem with the physical size of the devices compared to the size of the hard drive being replaced. Most desktop machines use 3.5 inch drives but the SSDs are the size of 2.5 inche HDs, so you need something to hold them in place. If you're putting this in your laptop, it may already have a 2.5 inch drive. But you may still need an adaptor because the mounting screws are in different location. dntknw.gif

In any case, you may need the adaptor when the SSD needs replacing when it slows down because their not expected to last as long as mechanical drives. They depend on software that avoids using the same transistors relatively which would cause them to become unusable and reducing the total capacity of the drive. I think the jury is still out on when this will happen but not if!

While SSDs speed up boot times enormously, that's not something I do more than once a day. The other big advantage is restarting an app. SSDs are simply very fast even compared to a 7200rpm HD. But they are still very expensive! Thus, the $30 is not much when compared to the SSD. smile.gif

OWC should be able to tell you if you really need the adaptor. dntknw.gif
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 09:31:03 AM »
The adapter is used for transferring the operating system from the MBPro to the new drive before it's installed.

I hadn't read about SSD's getting slow. I guess it would do me good to spend more time researching them before I make the mistake of buying one. Thanks for the heads up!

OWC has complete instructions on transferring information from the computer to the new drive using the adapter. They also have instructions on how to disassemble the computer and change out the drives.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 04:22:08 PM »
QUOTE(Bruce_F @ Apr 6 2012, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The adapter is used for transferring the operating system from the MBPro to the new drive before it's installed.

I hadn't read about SSD's getting slow. I guess it would do me good to spend more time researching them before I make the mistake of buying one. Thanks for the heads up!

OWC has complete instructions on transferring information from the computer to the new drive using the adapter. They also have instructions on how to disassemble the computer and change out the drives.


SSDs do get slow as they age. They start out about 60x faster than any mechanical hard drive, but by the time you've been using them for five or six years, they slow down so they are only about 57x faster than any mechanical hard drive. smile.gif

SSDs have a limited life. A modern third-generation SSD that you buy today can have each cell written to about 2 million times before it wears out. Cheaper second-generation SSDs have half that life; you can write to one block about a million times before it wears out. The drives use all sorts of tricks to extend their lifespan; "wear leveling" means that they shuffle data around so that all the blocks have the same amount of wear, and "overprovisioning" means that they have millions of spare transistors so that when one wears out, they start using a spare.

In practical terms, that means if you write huge amounts of data--say, three terabytes of data per day, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week--an older drive will last about fifteen years, and a newer drive will last about 30 years. That's not accounting for wear leveling or overprovisioning. Since drives use both of those to manage life, if you're writing three terabytes of data per day, 24/7, an older drive will actually last closer to 20 years, and a newer drive, 40 years.

If you don't do that kind of incredible volume of writing, but your usage is more typical of home users (watching streaming movies, doing word processing and email, surfing the Web), a cheap drive will probably last you 40-50 years, and a more expensive drive will likely last 70-90 years.

When people talk about an SSD having a limited lifespan, they forget that normal hard drives also have a limited lifespan, too. The lifespan of a normal drive depends mostly on how long the bearings will last. The platters spin at thousands of RPM, and even modern sealed bearings still wear out. The difference is that an SSD only wears when you write data; there is no wear from reading information off the drive. A normal hard drive, on the other hand, is wearing out the entire time it is spinning, even if the computer's not using it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 07:19:19 PM »
We once were told that CDs would last for 50 years (OK, maybe only half that), also. And ink-jet prints would last decades. Of course, I won't be around in 50, 40 or even 30 years to see if these estimates turn out to be correct... laughhard.gif
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 09:45:41 AM »
Thanks for the information tacit!

Hopefully, OWC will continue to lower prices. They have twice in the past couple months.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 11:04:58 AM »
Of course, the chances that we'll still be using the same SSD technology 40 years from now are just about nil. After all, are we still using floppy disks, cassette tapes, VHS, or 8-track? And with the continual growth in the size of files we're saving/creating/using, the drives of today may look as ridiculous to us 10 or 15 years down the line as those 10GB drives in our shiny new G4s circa 1999 now look to us. wink.gif

So...methinks any worries about SSD longevity are a bit misplaced.
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 04:49:27 PM »
True! The "cloud" is limitless! As far as the East is from the West! laughhard.gif   

As far as I know, the fastest way to see most prices drop is to buy something! Within a month, whatever I bought will be at least 10% cheaper... except for gas and cable service, anyway. wallbash.gif And the longer you put off buying something the less time you'll have to enjoy it... assuming it actually brings joy with it! notworthy.gif Go for it! thumbup.gif And you might start a small business renting out that adaptor thingy! yes.gif
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