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Offline Jack W

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« on: May 15, 2015, 10:35:35 AM »
This question relates to the following Threads:

http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index....showtopic=27058

http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index....showtopic=27072

One last question on upgrading:

Should I:

1) Install the new OS on its own partition, and then use Migration Assistant to move all my 10.6.8 stuff over?

2) Or the approach I have been working on: Create a SD! clone of my 10.6.8 partition, and then apply the NewOS.app to it, and then do 'what else' ?

Will 2) work properly??

Jon, Paddy, ABD, Tacit - or anybody else that wants to chime in ???

Thanks to all of you that have given very valuable responses to Topic 27058 !!!

BTW Jon, I am ordering Pogue's book from Amazon today.

TeeEss - a really great resource !!!

Thanks,

Jack
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 10:40:23 AM by Jack W »
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2015, 10:54:13 AM »
I don't know if there is any advantage to installing a fresh OS and then migrating. Personally, I would do choice #2. It will be faster and easier than #1. If you run into trouble, you can always boot from the 10.6.8 clone, erase the Mavericks partition and do #1. Honestly, I don't think that you'll have any problem.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2015, 11:52:58 AM »
"Final question" Confident, we are over? laugh.gif cheer2.gif

First, you should always have more that two choices; complications are what keeps your mind sharep! Second, ...
I forget what that was going to be...

I'll just agree with whatever Jon said, anyone who is so efficient with the alphabet must know something! laughhard.gif

Oh yeah, another reason for having more than two choices is this math factoid from RHP: "Every time I have a fifty-fifty chance, 90% of the time I get it wrong!"
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 11:53:42 AM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2015, 12:08:20 PM »
When I was a child, my mother always gave me two choices for supper: Take it or leave it.

When I really irritated her, the two choices were, "Eat it or starve."
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 06:22:16 PM by jchuzi »
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2015, 06:34:23 PM »
OK  Mavericks is installed !

I did 2) above, and it seemed to roll in without a hitch.

Thanks to all who chimed in while I was getting ready to install it.

A couple of issues so far:

1) I did a Disk Utility Repair Permissins thingy. It found a whole bunch of things with Epson Scanner in them. I have not had an Epson Scanner or printer since late in the days of Tiger. How do I get rid of all things Epson Scanner and Printer?

2) My Kensington Turbo Mouse is brain dead.  The Mouseworks control panel will not work (can't find the driver). I went on Kensington site, but got nothing when I searched for Turbo Mouse support.

All ideas welcome.

Now I have a lot of work to do to tune Mavericks and making it useful.

Thanks,

Jack
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 06:42:46 PM by Jack W »
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 06:53:30 PM »
You should have asked about Epson printers. I could have answered that one. However, as a guess, you could look in /Library/Printers/Epson and see if scanners are listed there. If so, you can delete them, as well as printer drivers. In fact, you could delete the entire Epson folder and save a ton of hard drive space. If you ever get another Epson, you can always download the driver from the App Store.

Another thought (and probably a better one) is to open System Preferences > Printers and Scanners and delete any Epson thingies listed there.

As far as the mouse is concerned, see if this MacUpdate site helps. Ah, the wonders of Google! Speaking of App Store, see if there's anything there for your situation.

Another thought occurred to me (an extremely rare occurrence; my wife has alerted the media). The mouse driver may be PPC only and, since Mavericks cannot use Rosetta, it won't work. Since that site says that you need OS 10.2.8 or later, it's likely that this is the case.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 07:00:25 PM by jchuzi »
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 07:01:06 PM »
Jon,

Version 3.0r1 Mouseworks is the version I have on my SL partition.

It does not work on Mavericks.

Thanks for the suggestion tho.

And, BTW, don't Google it, Duck it !!!

DuckDuck Go forever!!!

Jack
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2015, 07:07:56 PM »
Not only is Jon efficient with the alphabet, he's also a faster typist!

There may be an Uninstaller with "Epson" on the name. Spotlight might find it. But Spotlight may not be finished creating its database, the first one usually takes hours... In the mean time, just look in
    /Library/Application Support, and also Printers
    ~/Library same as above
    Maybe the Utilities folder, also
BTW, you may notice that your user Library (~/Library) is no longer (normally) visible in Finder. wallbash.gif Apple doesn't think we are capable of treating it with due respect! OTOH, your System Library is easily accessed. wallbash.gif Anyway, if you'd like to have it in the Side Bar of a Finder window, just Open a Finder window (if there's not one already open). Now, hold down the option key, click the "Go" menu and there will be a "Library" item there. That's your user Library. Select it and the Finder window will open displaying what's in it. Just click, hold, and drag the window title (/Users/jack's_user_name/Library) into the Side Bar. Done. Fini. thumbup.gif There is a setting in the Finder prefs, but it sometimes fails to 'stick'.

QUOTE
... brain dead
I know the feeling... rolleyes.gif

Actually, just try using the built-in Mouse prefs, it just might work, at least for some of the buttons. Worth a try, anyway. dntknw.gif
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 07:10:36 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2015, 07:22:29 PM »
The Mouse panel is of no help I'm afraid.

Thanks anyway for the suggestion.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2015, 07:43:00 PM »
Jack,

I wouldn't worry about those error messages when repairing permissions. From everything that I have read, permission repair doesn't do too much anymore and may be a waste of time. I don't remember the last time that I did it. Besides, I have gotten those messages about Epson permissions and nothing seems amiss. They're probably among the 5 million or so "error" messages that can be ignored.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 07:57:29 PM »
That's a very old mouse you have there, Jack. From the looks of things, it's either time for a new mouse/trackball or you could try SteerMouse.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/19058/steermouse - it was updated in November. You can try it free for 30 days.

If, on the other hand, you decide to get a new trackball device, this one gets stellar reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001MTE32Y
« Last Edit: May 16, 2015, 07:57:51 PM by Paddy »
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