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Offline kimmer

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Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« on: December 19, 2020, 06:39:49 PM »
I don't want to use two-factor authorization, but every time I turn my MacBook Pro on, I get the little alert in the right hand corner of the screen. I click it, system prefs launches, and I simply close it as there is no where that I can find to shut off this option. That only works until I restart. I'm more than a bit frustrated. How do I turn this option OFF for good?

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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2020, 07:27:16 PM »
According to my System Prefs->Apple ID, I have Two-Factor Authentication: • ON. But I never have to use it to simply sign in to the computer. Probably because I also have Automatic login set up. :dntknw:

According to one image I see (image #1), there is a "Trun On..." button for that item, if it is OFF.
My dialog is somewhat different (image #2). :wallbash:

The bottom line is that Apple seems to have no way to dis-enable 2FA, once you have turned it on! I suspect a re-install would re-enable your ability to enable it as the default setting should be OFF. It might be easiest to try calling Apple, moving up the chain, if necessary, until you can confirm my suspicions/your frustrations!
« Last Edit: December 19, 2020, 07:40:27 PM by Xairbusdriver »
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2020, 09:43:37 PM »
If you enabled it a number of operating systems ago, you can still turn it off...

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8231823

Otherwise, you're stuck with it. I really hate being forced into these schemes that require that I have my iPhone at hand all the time...my bank now requires 2FA for online banking, and some other services (MailChimp, various web hosts) require it - seemingly unaware that in the case of hosting services, often it is NOT the client/account owner doing the day-to-day work, and 2FA becomes a major PITA when you're trying to work on a client's account and he/she gets the blasted codes on his/her phone. In a meeting. In a different time zone. Etc. etc. ARGH.
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2020, 09:48:18 AM »
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I really hate being forced into these schemes that require that I have my iPhone at hand all the time
Another advantage of wearing pants with pockets... :rofl:

From the Apple link:
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If you don't see the option to turn off two-factor authentication on your Apple ID account page, that means you can't turn it off.
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If someone has turned on two-factor authentication for your Apple ID without your permission, you can also turn it off from the enrollment confirmation email sent to your Apple ID or rescue email address. Click Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication at the bottom of the email to restore your Apple ID to its previous security settings and regain control of your account. The link is active for two weeks after you enroll.
That assumes you got the email and that the "someone" used your Apple recognized email addy's.

What's the point of ANY time period?

The "someone" usually refers to an employer IT Administrator. The 2FA may be a requirement of the employer. If that is the case, only that authorized "someone" should have the ability of turning this ON/OFF. It should also apply only to employer supplied iDevices. If you are allowed to use your own device to access employee related data, that should after signing a document to relinquish control of your device. If employer data is accessible by an unauthorized device (person or not) that should be grounds for legal action. Otherwise, don't preach "security" if the employee can disable it and still have (unauthorized) access. :wallbash:

Our bank allows finger-ID verification. A handy concept Apple seems to have crippled by removing the physical ID button from some newer models. :coolio: I can only hope that, when my iPhone 6 finally dies, I can then switch to facial ID or DNA sampling or brainwave comparison or ... :dntknw:
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 04:38:02 AM »
What drives me nuts about the 2FA is the time it takes to get the text. I've waited nearly 20 minutes for codes.


Once I asked to be sent a code, waited until the few minutes allowed had passed, then asked to have it sent again, ad infinitum. I tried with different browsers thinking that may have had something to do with being ignored. Finally, ALL of the codes showed up at once. Now I had several windows open and had to figure out which code was for which window...all in the few minutes allowed.
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 08:50:26 AM »
Apologies. I wasn't clear in my OP. I've never turned 2FA on, but Apple wants me to turn it on--thus the nagging. It's annoying. I read all the articles y'all linked to, but I don't see a way to stop this nagging.

It's beyond annoying at this point. ;)
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2020, 09:09:13 AM »
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What drives me nuts about the 2FA is the time it takes to get the text.
Just be glad they don't come by courier! :rofl:

2FA is simply not designed for ease-of-use. It assumes you will always have access to at least two forms of Internet/phone devices.

I think a system with a series of user-selected questions is a bit better. But if the answers are limited, it may be quicker to guess the answer. Of course, the storage of the answers will be open to hackers. At least that puts the burden on the company, not the user. My bank can't seem "remember" one of my answers.. or else I have some children/grandchildren I don't know about! :Thinking: :coolio:
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 09:25:08 AM »
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It's beyond annoying at this point.
Have you tried Zanex(sp?)? :D

Seriously, I don't remember that much "nagging". But I also don't remember turning it on, so my memory (of lack of one is irrelevant :blush-anim-cl: ). :dntknw: Is there any specific time when you get the nagging? First sign-in on starting the computer? Waking the sleeping screen? Accessing you Apple account info?
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Re: Two-factor authorization--turn it off
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 09:56:23 AM »
Quote from: Xairbusdriver on December 21, 2020, 09:25:08 AM
Is there any specific time when you get the nagging? First sign-in on starting the computer? Waking the sleeping screen? Accessing you Apple account info?
No specific time.
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