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« on: October 09, 2003, 02:04:47 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2003, 04:17:31 PM »
There is a high level of paranoia among parents, fostered by the media, government agencies and business to advance their agendas and/or bottom lines.

Of course, a little common sense might lead parents to the conclusion that kids are really safe, but I don't hold much hope for that happening.  The current generation of  parents tends to be terribly neurotic about their children and this lawsuit is just another sorry example of misguided parents letting their fears get the better of them.

People like to blame lawyers for the huge number of lawsuits, but any lawsuit requires at least one plaintiff.  More and more folks initiate frivolous suits because they want someone else to protect them from their own fears, or compensate them for injuries real and imagined.  And the situation isn't helped by attorneys running all those adds on daytime TV encouraging people to sue.

There are certainly times when a lawsuit is the only available way to resolve a dispute.  I just wish that people would take personal responsibility for their actions and accept the fact that life itself poses some risk. Attempting to mitigate all possible sources of harm makes for a life not worth living.

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2003, 07:36:13 PM »
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The radio waves in a Wi-Fi network use the same frequency as wireless home phones, and have one-thirtieth the power of, cordless phones, Grimm, the spokesman for the group, said.


I would bet these parents say nothing to their teenage children who spend hours on the phone talking to their peers. Maybe they should be arrested for child endangerment.

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2003, 10:45:51 PM »
I would agree with the with the opinions stated here, except i heard the new Exteme Airport was "safer" than the original. Wasnt that the device i sat in front of, at head level, for hours a day for two years?

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2003, 12:24:12 AM »
Given the fact that they know these radio waves can hurt you, depending on degree and exposure, it's prudent to be concerned IMO.

If the lawsuit goes forward vital information will be released to the public, like the efforts the industry and government have taken to ensure safety.

Here's a perfect example, the Navy uses high output sonar, only to find out that it may possibly be killing whales. Is this something that was just discovered by environmentalist, or known by the Navy all along?
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2003, 06:19:16 AM »
Found an interesting discussion thread HERE. Here's some food for thought:

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802.11 networks transmit, typically, 38 milliwatts of RF - but only when they are transmitting. Most of the time, they are not transmitting. So the average power output is much less.




Compare this to the average power leakage from a consumer microwave oven, also operating at about 2.45 Ghz: 1/2 watt to 1 watt, depending on when the unit was manufactured. 802.11 networks were, by design, set to produce power output far below (e.g. 1/10th to 1/20th the level) that is emitted by an ordinary microwave oven, which shares the same radio frequencies as 802.11 networks.

The RF power dissipation at 2.4 Ghz is also very rapid, with a fall off in the RF field often proportional to 1 over r to the 4th or 5th power, where r is the radius of the distance outward from the transmission antenna.

PCS phones operate at 1.9 Ghz plus or minus. Traditional cellular operates between 800 and 900 Mhz. Power output level for analog phones was a maximum of 600 milliwatts. For today's digital cellular CDMA phones, the maximum output level is 200 milliwatts. In reality, the typical output is much lower. In order to reduce interference between adjoining tower cells, and to extend the life of the handheld phone's battery, the network strives to keep the transmit power as low as possible. It is quite common for average celphone calls to be conducted at power levels of less than 100 milliwatts.

The only impacts of 802.11 RF appear to be stress induced in those whose brain power may have been limited by other factors outside the realm of this discussion. The impact of the lawsuit itself will be more detrimental to student health than the 802.11 networks, in that the lawsuit will cost the school district funds that might otherwise have gone to student education. Further, if the district decides to remove the network, it will then remove the benefit of having computer network access in its classroom. Thus, the lawsuit itself will de facto cause problems for the students.


I'm willing to bet these same parents are running around calling their lawyers with cell phones clamped to their ears! (And baby monitors in their bedrooms...)
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2003, 04:47:42 PM »
    'Anti-radiation' jeans fuel cellphone debate

http://www.itechnology.co.za/index.php?cli...00B241&set_id=1

The article written by NEJM claiming NO Harm, was remove. www.nejm.org

Companies applying for patterns to cover radiation were applied for.
http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2001/061520...r_shield_re.htm
Ericsson has denied a newspaper report that the company, along with Nokia and Motorola, was patenting devices to reduce the risk of brain tumours among users. A report says that the three companies had invented new components to shield users from radiation emissions from handsets.

The technology is moving at a fast pace 802.11 a b c g? 802.16? Is there no reason to be concerned?
Interoperability
http://wimaxforum.org/news/inthenews.asp


People want to know that todays great convenience is not tomorrows nightmare. If it takes a courtroom to get the answers they want to pacify them then I would imagine the school, or government didn't satisfy their needs.

When they put some new chemical in the water around here they notify the residence, present their reasons and hold meetings on the subject.
Why when industry wants to introduce new radio waves into the air, they can with no citizen oversight?