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Offline sluggo

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« on: March 13, 2003, 08:52:00 AM »
According to the specs at Low End Mac, the Wallstreets have a max RAM of 192. I recently put a 256 MB chip in to go along with the 64 already on the backside of the logic board. Apple System Profiler shows the unit as having 320 MB. Does this just mean that 320 MB are physically present but the computer doesn't have the capacity to utilize it all? I was going to spring for another 256, but sounds like that would be like tossing money out the window.
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2003, 08:59:00 AM »
If the Profiler sees it, it's being used. Check About this Mac under the Apple and see what it says.
According to MacTracker this model can use 512MB.
 
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2003, 09:20:00 AM »
Todd,
memory loss here ... you've a 233 wallstreet correct?
http://www.pure-mac.com/diag.html#guru  
See what guru says.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2003, 10:21:00 AM »
Bob -ASP and "About This Mac" both show the 320 MB of RAM.
Bill - The guru download and home page links were both 404's. They done disappeared on us!
The original reason for my question is because the old PB is a little sluggish with Jag. I suspect that is more a symptom of the 233 just plain not having enough horses for it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2003, 10:50:00 AM »
Well yeah. It will always be "sluggish" with Jag.  

What did you expect?

Ok to learn about Jag with.

A Processor Upgrade would help.

But you'll always be limited by the Video card.

iBook with a decent Video card is probably minimum to run Jag well.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2003, 10:52:00 AM »
My mistake Todd. Forgot about guru going south. Guess pure-mac hasn't done any updating with their data.
I have it on a server. Download guru by Clicking Here ---- maybe?----- <gr>
You have to fire it up in 9 or 8.

You could very well be correct Todd in that the 233 is might on the sluggish side for X.
Although I am not going to get into that mhz thing again. Last time I did,I was reamed on another board. Just now able to walk straight again. <GR>
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2003, 09:46:00 PM »
Wallstreets can take up to 512.
But the most important thing to know is that the lower RAM slot can only take LO-PROFILE chips. These are smaller than the regular SO-DIMMS.  The Lombards can take two of the larger chips but not the Wallstreets.

You can put two LO-PROFILE chips in but only one of the larger size in the upper slot. I have two 256 chips in mine but the lower chip is only reading half its potential (384). I can't switch cause the upper is large size. I would send the chip back for a new one but I can't remember where I bought it.

   

My Wallstreet runs Jag decently but I did upgrade the processor (466) and put in a bigger drive (20G).


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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2003, 09:50:00 PM »
Todd,  here's a good diagram of the procedure for getting to the lower slot.

 installing RAM in Wallstreet


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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2003, 03:27:00 AM »
I have a 233 i was thinking - out loud here- doing an across the board upgrade but i got the impression it was a lost cause. It seems it is just below the line where it can be sufficiently suped up . I guess the 266 is next and that can better benefit from upgrades.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2003, 10:46:00 AM »
Kris - The 256 RAM that I just installed was a low profile unit that came from Data Memory Systems that is supposed to be able to fit in either slot. It just happens to be in the top one right now because it's the easiest to get at. I have my doubts that putting in another 256 will make it snappier enough to warrant the cost.
kelly - I sorta knew going in that X probably wasn't going to function quite as well as it should on the old dog, but what the heck, it's fun to experiment sometimes. I did just put a new 8 gig HD in it and partitioned and I do also have 9.2 on the other partition. If I find a processor upgrade cheap I might go for one. If not, it isn't that big of a deal.
 
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2003, 10:55:00 AM »
Well Todd. There's this.  

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm...em=STIWSG45001M

And there's probably others.

But after Wallstreet purchase, Hard Drive and Processor Upgrade,

one could have bought a cheap iBook to run OS X well.

But you knew that. Right?
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2003, 11:00:00 PM »
Yup kelly, I knew that. I never really intended to run X on the Wallstreet, but you know how that goes. It was here and I had time on my hands. The HD and the RAM were priced right so I went for them, then all of the sudden one upgrade leads to another. Maybe I'll put the Wallstreet on ebay and look into an iBook.
 
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2003, 12:09:00 PM »
I guess that's just human nature Todd.  

I wouldn't have mentioned it except I already had.  

http://www.techsurvivors.net/cgi-bin/ultim...ic;f=1;t=010087
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