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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2003, 07:58:00 PM »
Jim, you might want to check this page out:

http://diveintomark.org/safari/51.html

It describes a lot of the known problems with Safari - there may be something in there that corresponds to something in your pages. There are a couple of known issues that cause Safari crashes - don't know if they apply to you or not - probably a lot quicker for you to figure out than one of us who would have to plow through your code to see if any of it corresponds to the known issues.

One suggestion - you might try uploading your index page without the CSS (somewhere temporary...it will probably look very weird without it) and have us check it that way. Since CSS is Safari's weak spot, it might be the place to start.

I sent a bug report to Apple just in case it doesn't fall into the known issue category.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2003, 08:44:00 PM »
Great idea Paddy! Here you go:
MacOSphere site (no CSS, about what NS 4 'sees!')            

Actually, the CSS is technically there, but the link to the style sheet file is commented out, so there should be no styling done. Even a beta browser should be able to handle/ignore tags it doesn't recognize.

I really appreciate all the help from TS!

And I will check that link tomorrow!      

Jim C.
 
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2003, 09:01:00 PM »
Jim, that page loads just fine in Safari, so I think it is now safe to conclude that it's something in the CSS (just as Diana suspected)...though since you used the same CSS for other pages, it's got to be something in how it is used by that page in particular - or some aspect that is only used by that page (I did have a quick look at your style sheet, and you may have something in there that is only on the two pages that cause Safari to go belly-up...but again, you're going to be able to pin that down a lot faster than we can!!)

If you find it...let us know!
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2003, 09:10:00 PM »
Another winner!    

It should be a simple Find and Replace (or should that be Search and Destroy!). BTW, I couldn't keep from sneaking a look at that link, have it bookmarked for further study!    

Thanks again! No further tests needed 'guys' let me work through these hints for a while. Just wish I had thought of doing this logical exercise before bothering everyone!    

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2003, 09:54:00 PM »
Loads fine on a Red Hat 8.0 Linux/Mozilla/Microtel box.

Unusually quickly, actually.

Nice site!

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2003, 10:56:00 PM »
Wow!...cool link Paddy,..   So much more interesting than that dry stuff I linked to.

Reading that gave me an idea too. The safari link indicated that they're working from the same base that Konqueror uses. I have Konqueror 3.0.3-14 Red Hat (Using KDE 3.0.3-8.3 Red Hat)(actually called while in gnome, not KDE), so I fired it up to visit airbusdriver's pages. I wondered if it would crash because it exhibits the same behaviors as Safari when playing around at that diveintomark site. Jim, it didn't crash.    In fact the pages look quite nice, the front page and the about us page.

I would suggest looking at some way to fix your code for Safari, but as fast as they seem to be working to get Safari up to speed and the fact that Konqueror is a step or two ahead should mean that they'll have whatever bug Safari has all ironed out real soon..   I'm betting that Paddy's bug report will be the "fixer upper" that is needed...
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2003, 03:46:00 PM »
I may not spend too much more time on this Safari problem. No one at the church uses it (much less a Mac!    ) and it is bad enough trying to get the basics to NS 4!    

I noticed the same 'relationship' with Konqueror at Paddy's link and since Diana says it can render the pages OK, I may just be trying to hit a moving target, anyway.

I did find a few things that showed up in a Source View in IE that were not actually showing in the display (it doesn't seem to handle comments correctly in the Source View?!    ) so I just deleted those comments for the HTML. Plus themphill pointed out my miss-use of some comment tags (using too many hyphens and/or spaces), which have been corrected.    

Time to move on! Like Safari?    

Thanks again for all the help, suggestions, screenshots, and links!     You have also encouraged me about the stability of X!    

Gonna take a break and go to a Leo Kottke concert tonight!    

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2003, 04:50:00 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2003, 02:01:00 PM »
Even better in person! Even managed to get an autograph!    There were at least 3 who brought their guitar for him to sign!    

I would swear there was another performer somewhere in the auditorium! How does he get so much music out of 12 strings?    

Couldn't help but think of my younger son who made his way into the Berkley School of Music with a guitar performance he created and recorded. Brought back memories of being with him when we saw Michael Hedges perform many years ago.
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2003, 02:03:00 PM »
As for the Safari crashes, it may very well be in the use of CSS. In a couple of places I end up with 4 nested DIV's. Other places I have 3. Nesting can be dangerous for some browsers. Will have to see if that can be simplified!
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2003, 06:47:00 PM »
Wow! Leo Kottke! I am so envious ... one day he'll come here to charleston.
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