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I got the drive, now what
« on: April 03, 2003, 01:04:00 PM »
Newegg was out of the Western diigital 120 HD so i got it from buy.com. I thought i was getting the retail version and got a bare bones package.
i guess i want to add this to the drive already in my BWG3 (which is version 2.2 according to the OSX profiler).
Ive only added RAM to this so i do know how to open it but that's it.
I would want this new drive to be the main one. What do i  have to buy and where?
I  no idea what jumpers and the such are buy can follow step by steps.
point me the way!

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2003, 01:27:00 PM »
Accelerate your mac has instructions on installing and setting the jumpers on a second hard drive in B&W G3 s and G4s  here.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2003, 01:43:00 PM »
Further to that, you shouldn't have to buy anything more - the ATA cable in your G3 should have another connector on it, and there will be a spare power connector in there somewhere. The drives typically ship with two jumpers on them - you just have to move or remove them, following the little diagram on the drive itself, and paying attention to Western Digital's somewhat unusual method of jumpering drives - unlike other drives, they have a jumper setting for master WITH slave and a different one for master WITHOUT slave.

I've accumulated several ATA cables from purchases of "retail" drives. Used one in a PC I was refurbishing (had no drives or cables)...but other than that, they just keep piling up. I sometimes wonder why they bother including them at all, since so few computers actually need them - unless you're adding a third drive and a PCI controller.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2003, 06:38:00 PM »
Uh, i dont get the whole idea of jumpers and slaves and masters. i want this new drive to be my everyday one. Does that make it the master, or does the original one have to be it? And what are jumpers and what do they do?
Also the instructions say format from OS9. Can i do it from OSX? and do i need OS9 on this drive ito run classic if it's already on the other (original) drive, which is a maxtor, by the way.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2003, 07:24:00 PM »
Master and slave don't mean anything other than a way of identifying the drives - which is what setting the jumpers does. SCSI drives all have SCSI ID numbers...well, ATA drives also have to be identified, but since there are only two of them on any given IDE bus, there are only two options - Master or Slave or if you happen to look in your system profiler - 0 or 1. Think of it as the street address...nothing more.

Your existing drive (the Maxtor) will be set to "Master" because it's the only one in there. Therefore, the easiest thing to do is to set your WD drive to "slave". There should be a diagram on the drive which shows where the jumpers go. If not, see:

http://support.wdc.com/techinfo/general/jumpers.asp - you want Dual (Slave)

And no, you do not have to install 9 on this drive. I didn't put it on my 120GB WD (it is on my other drive) - just put a nice fresh install of Jaguar on it. Put the install disk in the drive, restart holding the C key and go first to Disk Utility and format and partition the drive as desired. Then install X.

You should also be able to format and partition the drive from your current drive - just use Disk Utility and select the new drive. Then either put the OS X install disk into the drive, click on it and run the  Installer, at which point you will be prompted to restart, or just restart and start up again holding down the C key.
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