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Offline Gregg

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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2003, 10:17:00 PM »
I posted over there {[(on the new board) which is now the new new board] as opposed to the old new board} and anyway, I used some graemlins that got all jumbled up (kind of like the new board, which... you know) and then they disappeared. What's up with that?

And keep it simple, I'm getting a headache.
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2003, 02:51:00 AM »
Gregg,  could you be more specific about the graemlins? What thread is this?

 ABD and others,  if you had any idea of how this code was set up you would shudder. It is fairly easy to subsitute a particular graphic image but that is where the simplicity ends.

In order to add particular graphical changes or reconfigure the layout you don't just change the css or merely the html for that page. The css governs the basic flow of the page in more than just colors, fonts, etc. It consists of about 60 separate indicators for the overall general look. Each of which affects several items depending on which page of the forum is being drawn.

Further changes are accessible and alterable through various macros that are coded within the html. There is a basic wrapper that describes the setup of the page. Then there is the css, then the macros, some of which access the images and some change the parameters of the particular request. Then there is the html which contains the macros within it.

Confused yet?
You should be.

If you want to get an idea of the css, go up to View source on this page and look at the first list of the 60 items in the css. When you get to /style then the basic html for the page starts. But remember that is not what we see when we go to alter a page. We deal with macros that are imbedded within the php code and finding the right macro and knowing how to change it is quite daunting. If you want an idea of what we are up against in trying to change things, take a look at these shots of the control panel.

 This page  shows part of the main control panel with the HTML section open to choose which sections to look at. Note the scroll bar indicates that there is much more below the end of the screen.

 Here  I've opened one of the sections from the previous screen and am confronted with many more items from which to choose.

 This show a small part of the html that makes up the code for post buttons and boxes.

 Here  is more of the code for the same parameter.

As you can see it is not all that simple to alter things.
Oh, BTW, the phpBB was worse in that it had virtually no consistent structure.

If anyone wants to make their own skin they are welcome to download one from an IB site and try to change it to suit their own desires.

 Start here.

Good luck.


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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2003, 07:35:00 AM »
The disappearing graemlins were in the "Do not post anything of importance" thread.
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2003, 05:13:00 AM »
Gregg-The conversion from UBB to PHPBB to Invision did some *ahem* unusual things, particularly with the graemlins.  You may notice images don't display in the converted threads.

Why?  Gremlins? Bernie?
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2003, 01:02:00 PM »
What I'm curious about is. . .Are you guys finding that the new board is faster for you, as far as loading and posting?

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2003, 02:27:00 PM »
I think the new board is a little faster.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2003, 03:43:00 PM »
quote:
If you want to get an idea of the css, go up to View source on this page and look at the first list of the 60 items in the css.
and, er...
 
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If anyone wants to make their own skin they are welcome to download one from an IB site and try to change it to suit their own desires.
Almost all I can say to that, Kris, is    

I did it both on this board and the "new new" board with this in my lap (recently found a second-hand, virtually untouched copy at a price I couldn't resist):
 
Templates, macros or not, what you've been up to is quite phenomenal!

Don't you think seven skins might be enough?  

As for speed, I'm beginning now to think my feeling that Invision is faster is more than wishful thinking.
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