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« on: May 09, 2003, 12:29:00 AM »
A trend that was in play around here not to long ago was that some wolves dressed in sheeple clothing were knocking on doors, falsely representing themselves as some Christian fellowship org. They would scout out your property, learn your schedule, and return at the optimum time to empty your building. Some folks were victims of home invasion, even 80 year old ladies were being raped. This is in a small beach community with it’s own police department, a very good department at that. The invaders were from the City, preying on a quiet semi-retirement beach community.

In addition to both of us having hand guns and dogs here, I thought I needed a security system, and knowing that a Cops biggest thorn-in-the-side is alarm systems, I decided to go a different route. I’ve had ADT in the past, (in California) but found it to cause more trouble, actually being targeted by kids, so I discontinued the contract.

I looked into wireless surveillance cameras and found that with a scanner and battery operated TV a guy could look inside your camera before he Hit’s your house/office, so the Wired Type was the conclusion I came to.

First I looked for ready to install off the shelf surveillance equipment compatible with Macs and found none. I wanted a system to broadcast on the web, over the phone, on TV and on my G3. Tall order, but that’s what I wanted.

For most something simple may do, like this , a camera built into a flood light. For others it could be more.

I opted for buying good outdoor equipment, capable in low light or no light situations.
I needed the cameras to reach a distance of 50 feet with the capacity of taking legal profiles, which directed me to 12mm lenses. 4 foot for every MM.

I wanted a wide field, over 90º, 120º if possible, using only three cameras outside, reserving one for indoor use. 4 in total.

As Kelly posted on another thread, http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8481  I use security spy software which gives me almost everything I need. What it doesn’t do at this moment is broadcast on the web, but that’s coming. It does email, phone, sound alarms, control your lights, you can watch on CCTV, on your computer monitor, and you can control it's sencitivity which is OK for now. If anyone would like detailed info, cheaper options, just say the word.

I checked the police departments policy on surveillance cameras and they except all reasonable footage, they would also look on the web to view my property if I asked.

With the economy sliding into the iLoo, crime is expected to increase, it seems that surveillance options are a “Good Thing” and maybe even deductible from your insurance policies.

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2003, 01:13:00 AM »
SB, thanks mucho for starting this.

Could you give a rough estimate of what it would cost for a setup like yours? It sounds awfully expensive.
I do see that at least the software does work with OS 9. Do you have it hooked up to your computer or a TV? You say CCTV, does that mean cable which I don't have.

Have you any kind of experience with or reviews of the other possibilties? I see those Xcam type ads all the time but I've always been sceptical of whether they really worked as advertised. I'd hate to invest in something that didn't really work as promised.

This is very valuable information that is long overdue for discussion.

Off to bed shortly, will check in tmrw.


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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2003, 03:00:00 AM »
It's late, hope this makes sense?  

Kris, This camera I bought on ebay, through
Paula
Customer Service
Intellicam 513-942-1327
 http://www.intellicamusa.com  

 

I also have a cheap webcam for the second view. I intend to select the next two cameras as I decide what my needs are.

CCTV (Closed Caption TV ) No you don’t need cable, the wire is nice, strong, but any video wire will do, I had some just laying around. The cable wire plugs into your TV. Adaptors

A single camera was $135.00 shipped with a 12mm lens. But that was for my special needs. Court.    I don’t know if they have any more but this one is Similar    
                
quote:
Model BB300

Need a smaller camera with night vision capability
WITHOUT INFRARED LIGHTING

Our new Sony Exview features a full 1/3" CCD
sensor incorporating Sony's new Exview technology.
Displaying 420 lines @ a stunning (.0003) LUX!!
This camera is currently the world's lowest lux
rated camera without infrared assist on the market
today.  Sees in near pitch dark conditions. 

 

Specifications:
True 1/3" CCD Sensor
420 Lines Resolution
.0003  Lux
Measures 3" (L)  X 3/4" (D)
Includes Protective Sunshield
Operates On 12 Volts DC
Current Less Than 120ma
S/N Ration >68DB
Auto Focus
Auto Iris
Weatherproof
Includes Video/Power Cable
Ships With 3.6mm Lens (92 Degree)
Ships With Fully Regulated Digital Power Supply

Suggested Retail..............$199.00

Your Price.........................$139.00

http://www.intellicamusa.com/bullet_cameras.htm

You can talk to Paula, tell her what’s up, and she will be helpful.

Security Spy can be set to respond to activity and record it. It takes 12k picture every second or when ever you want, default is 2 second intervals. it records seconds before and after the motion, so you don’t loose any footage, all controlled by you. Mine is set at 1 second intervals, so if it ran for an hour in total motion, it would use about 43 mb and take 3600 pictures. The pictures I have are clear and workable in Photoshop if need be. I can read a license plate at 50 feet, due for the most part to the quality of my cameras lens, but your needs may vary?

Cameras cost from $20-2000, mine was $135.00.
The software is $45 for capturing one camera, and $100 for capturing 4. I have 4
Wiring up the cameras could be and additional $20 per, depending on quality and distance. I ran a standard coax cable to a 4way splitter and into my cable system. I have a cable outlet near my G3 so I just plugged the A/V card to it with a RCA adaptor, rock and roll!

I’m now going to get an adaptor for connecting standard cable to an S-Video plug to see the cameras on my PowerBook.

I could show you reviews saying Xcam’s are junk, plastic lens junk, 2mm lens junk, not weather proof junk,  but you can find those reviews everywhere.     They may make a better camera, I don’t know, and they were the first place I went, I get email from the all the time, I found nothing of interest.

I have a friend here who’s in the BIZ, and he gave me an outline, good lenses make good neighbors, or was it, Two views diverge in the woods?

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2003, 06:55:00 PM »
Thanks  SB.  Lots of great information to absorb.
Really appreciate the time you took to do this.

I will be reading and checking into these items and figuring out what could go where. In the meanwhile I just bought two additional sensor lights and finally tracked down the blinds I wanted.

Note to all you homeowners, every Home Depot is not the same. They don't carry identical products in each outlet.


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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2003, 10:29:00 PM »
Your welcome Kris, here’s some more suggestions.  
Take some measurements, see how far you want to capture and how large the field would be at...... 30ft...40ft.....50ft ......100ft in the back. The longer distance the more likely your going to get noise, (unwanted footage)
If you have a lot of critters, dear, dogs, large birds, or traffic you may want a closer view, but the software is adjustable to your needs, so there’s some wiggle room.
I plan to use 15-25ft 3-6MM lenses in the front with a wide field. For this I can use a cheaper camera and lens because the light is brighter up front.  

I spoke to a real estate friend today and asked what impact if any a full video system would have on a buildings value, he said it could be up to 5 grand, depending on the property. So if you spend the money it’s  “real” investment. The hardwires and cameras stay with the house and appreciates the value. My $500-$700 investment will translate into a $1500 appreciation, in their opinion. This system can be connected to any computer, with any appropriate software.

Maybe you could email Paula, tell her what you think you would like and she may be able to guide you, no sales pressure, just friendly conversation.  

Oh ya, Home Depot is on my shoit list, after 16 years of buisness with a builders contract. I use lowes now. http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=home

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2003, 11:20:00 PM »
Hmmm, never considered the added value idea. Course I probably will be living here til they cart me away.

I do have many animals that activate the lights I presently have so I would have to set it accordingly. I noticed on Macintouch that the software you mentioned above has an update...

   
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Ben Bird's SecuritySpy 1.0b22 is a multi-camera video surveillance application that includes motion detection, timestamps, and the ability to upload images to remote computers via FTP. Recent changes include a built-in web server for network viewing and a new scheduling function.
Lots to think about. Thanks again.


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