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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2006, 08:17:41 AM »
FYI

I don't know what your intentions are Frances but if you want to optimize the site so Google rates it, there are a few necessities that will need to be in place.
example=
<td width="3"><img src="frame_botrightcorner.gif" alt="" height="3" width="3" border="0"></td>

alt=""
alt="some text in here explaining the photo"

Google or any search engine only reads text, they do not see pictures, so they will go right past any of your non-descriptive photos and miss the point of the site. Short detailed explanations of each photo should be written in the
alt="two Shetland Ponies facing one another" tag
alt="white Shetland with long mane"
alt="two Shetlands pulling farm cart"

The text is placed under the photo and can be seen when a cursor is rolled over it.

This text can be heard by the deaf using iListen or text to speech software as well.  smile.gif

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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2006, 10:00:33 AM »
FWIW.

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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2006, 12:59:51 PM »
Frances -

QUOTE
Encoding in your browser to UTF-8


That is the answer and this was kind of what I was getting at when I said you weren't getting the same font (character set) mapped in the browser that you were generating the page with.  It is probably asking a lot of all the users to change their web browser setting though it does "solve" the problem.  I ought to do more with making web pages then I have; but it makes me tired just thinking of learning more software tools on top of the certification tests I'm trying to study for.  I think that your Shetland effort is lovely; my sister's and wife would love to hang around the ponies for a year or two!
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2006, 02:26:35 PM »
QUOTE(kps @ Jun 6 2006, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well done Frances.

You have to tell me how you did the video captures for the image albums. The quality is remarkably good. Did you use iMovie or another editing programme? Did you also postprocess the captures in an image app like Photoshop?



Thank you - I just pressed slideshow button in iWeb and put it in.  Then I read somewhere that iWeb did not support slideshow on any other server but .Mac so I took the slideshow button out again (along with the counter).

So I was somewhat surprised to see the slideshow work!

Sorry not to be more helpful.  I would love to say that I tweaked this and html'ed that but I didn't!

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QUOTE(sandbox @ Jun 6 2006, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FYI

I don't know what your intentions are Frances but if you want to optimize the site so Google rates it, there are a few necessities that will need to be in place.
example=
<td width="3"><img src="frame_botrightcorner.gif" alt="" height="3" width="3" border="0"></td>

alt=""
alt="some text in here explaining the photo"

Google or any search engine only reads text, they do not see pictures, so they will go right past any of your non-descriptive photos and miss the point of the site. Short detailed explanations of each photo should be written in the
alt="two Shetland Ponies facing one another" tag
alt="white Shetland with long mane"
alt="two Shetlands pulling farm cart"

The text is placed under the photo and can be seen when a cursor is rolled over it.

This text can be heard by the deaf using iListen or text to speech software as well.  smile.gif


Thanks for your help - I am not sure that iWeb lets you have alt tags (if that is the right term for what you are suggesting).  I will have to think about what I can do.

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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2006, 08:50:23 PM »
I may be mistaken ( and too lazy to look it up... ), but I think the "alt" attribute simply places whatever text you put there in place of an image, should the image not be displayable for any reason. Screen readers may also be able to use it, but for the "text appearing when you hover/roll over it" I think you need to use the "title" attribute and that can be used in links as well, adding info to where/what the link is/goes.

"alt" is supposed to be part of any image ( "<img...>" ) tag, even if they are just '...alt=""...'. However, getting iWeb to do that may be very difficult. One would think that it would be a standard part of the Inspector window. Have/did you look there?
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2006, 06:53:13 AM »
Frances...it looks GREAT...love the pics and videos. I am not even close to savvy about HTML...but it looks as though you've got some super suggestions from those who are. biggrin.gif
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2006, 07:28:26 AM »
QUOTE(Frances144 @ Jun 6 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you - I just pressed slideshow button in iWeb and put it in.  Then I read somewhere that iWeb did not support slideshow on any other server but .Mac so I took the slideshow button out again (along with the counter).

So I was somewhat surprised to see the slideshow work!

Sorry not to be more helpful.  I would love to say that I tweaked this and html'ed that but I didn't!


Frances, I was referring to the images themselves not the presentation. Were they captured from video or taken with a digital/film camera.

I'm asking because if I capture still images from video, I'm always disapointed with the resolution. That is a normal limit with most video, but your images seem hi-res.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2006, 07:46:39 AM »
All my photos are taken with a Canon S21S camera.  I did look into getting a video camera (to do both jobs) but I was told that neither do either job particularly well so I went for a good camera with the highest fps for video and the most enormous memory card money could buy!

All my photos are also the highest resolution with compression (I think), ie least amount you can take so you get the less photos but the best quality.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2006, 08:33:28 AM »
QUOTE(Frances144 @ Jun 6 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you - I just pressed slideshow button in iWeb and put it in.  Then I read somewhere that iWeb did not support slideshow on any other server but .Mac so I took the slideshow button out again (along with the counter).

So I was somewhat surprised to see the slideshow work!

Sorry not to be more helpful.  I would love to say that I tweaked this and html'ed that but I didn't!

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Thanks for your help - I am not sure that iWeb lets you have alt tags (if that is the right term for what you are suggesting).  I will have to think about what I can do.

F


Frances the tag is there it's just not filled in. When you place a photo on the page look at the inspector, there should be a box provided to add a discription.

When I edit pages I duplicted the page, command D (if it's the index.html page the duplicate will be index1.html automatically) leaving the original intact. when I finish working on the index1.html code, I name the Index.html page index2.html remove the 1 from my duplicate, and make the duplicate the index.html page. Nothing ever gets lost if you work on duplicates.  coolio.gif

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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2006, 08:38:14 PM »
I have an applescript that does that for the index.html and the events.html pages ( the two that seem to need daily editing ) on the server, using Fetch commands. Then I upload the edited files. Being paranoid, I guess. And if things crash ( at the server ), I'll still end up a broken site...Then have a tidy up script that deletes the two duplicated files after checking the new ones are working correctly. It's also nice to have BBEdit check for errors ( and I seem to always have one or two! blush-anim-cl.gif ) before sending the updated pages! clap.gif Another script opens BBedit ( with both the above files ), FF, Fetch ( and the connection to the server ). See what I have to do when I don't use iWeb, Francis? smile.gif

Sorry I can't seem to finds any way to add/edit the "alt" much less the "title" info in iWeb. Good luck! smile.gif
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2006, 11:11:05 PM »
Jim I ran BBedit in os9 replace PageMill with Freeway then GoLive.
I stuck with GoLive for it's key commands and million option plan.
I don't have iWeb, but I imagine one could still write their own code. You should still be able to go the the source code page and write your own alt=" filling in the blanks" right?

Besides, it's good practice for folks to get away from WYSIWYG software and experience hand writing code. (copy and paste if you like)? Often times it's the only way to correct a flaw created by WYSIWYG software. salute.gif
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2006, 12:41:59 PM »
Sure, you can download the files after posting them with iWeb. Then 'correct' them with BBEdit and re-upload. The only advantage I can see is the use of the supplied graphics in iWeb. The code will be ridiculoously hard to interpret for a beginner. But most of that will come from iWeb's absurd and convoluted use of CSS. The redundancy alone will drive most coders batty! tease.gif Just the lack of a commenting ability will make for a lot of work in the future...

Seems to me it would ba a lot quicker to start from scratch or at least use a progam that allows decent output and manually adding things it leaves out/screws up. I'm hoping there will be a major upgrade to iWeb in the near future. They have the common iWork interface ( Inspector windows ) in place, bow all they need to do is create the editing functions for html and CSS. Would be nice if the 'web building' engine were built closer to Safari's 'web displayer' model. smile.gif
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