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« on: December 01, 2006, 04:50:13 PM »
Well, it's true--we did get dumped on today and it was gorgeous, looking from the inside out until the plows came through.

But... that's not my question.  whew.gif  Hope this hasn't been addressed before but, if it was, I missed it.   sleep1.gif

In my Mozilla profile there are 11 files labeled 'bookmarks-1.html' thru 'bookmarks-11.html' plus the current one w/ no number and the same with '.msf' on the end, all having a 'Safari' icon.  The same is true of the 'cookies' files, in the same folder.  Is it safe to trash the ones with numbers attached and just keep the current file with today's date.

That said, I have a ton of bookmarks in 'SeaMonkey' as well but, if all the above have a Safari icon, where are the 'SM'/'Mozilla' bookmarks?  These are the only files in that folder that have multiple copies.

Also, in my 'user' folder is a 'Safari' folder.  That contains a 'Bookmarks.plist' that's almost the same size as the one in the Mozilla profile but has no icon... just a 'plain piece of paper'.  Both were 'Modified' today because I accessed them today.  Strange that those files in the Mozilla folder would have a Safari icon???

This is all probably way too much information--just need an answer to the question in the third paragraph.

Any thoughts or explanations or ...?  

 thanx.gif  in advance...

Laurel

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2006, 02:52:58 PM »
The icons assigned due to what the System thinks created them based on their file extension ( and sometimes by their resource fork, I think, when they actually have one ). OS X assumes that you will be using Safari, so it may assign Safari icons to any 'html' file it sees, until and unless you use Safari to assign a different browser as the default. Actually, any local ".html" file will open BBEdit when I double-click it because that's what I use to edit them. When surfing, of course, they come in to the browser, so they work fine that way. As I understand it, icons are purely for decoration and human consumption, although they can be marginally useful for telling what program the System thinks should open them.

Unless these files are extremely large, I'd suggest leaving them alone. Or, at most, move them to your desktop and see if things operate normally for a few days. There are probably over 150,000 files on your disk, a few dozen extra will not make much difference. It's generally a bad idea to mess/delete items unless you know for a fact that they are corrupt or unneeded.

For bookmarks, I still rely on URLM Pro so they are all available in any/all browsers and any other app, for that matter. I've never looked for nor bothered any 'bookmark' files in any browser, since I don't need/have any, other than what may have come with the app.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2006, 11:18:31 PM »
Thanks for your thorough explanation, ADB!  I just thought it odd that these two files would continue to build new ones instead of updating the mod. date as most other files do.

I'll leave them alone because I certainly don't need any more problems than the ones I've had lately including a TechToolPro issue where my boot drive was rendered unrecognizable after running it.  UGH!!!  rant.gif  Not a fun time...

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2006, 12:47:30 PM »
The site crashed last night when I tried to "add to" this thread. I second Jim's advice, but I really just wanted to ask where all that snow is. Super Poster, in............?
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2006, 09:16:53 PM »
QUOTE(sunset @ Dec 1 2006, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my Mozilla profile there are 11 files labeled 'bookmarks-1.html' thru 'bookmarks-11.html'. . . .

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. . . . I have a ton of bookmarks in 'SeaMonkey' as well
Laurel
Every time any Mozilla browser quits, Spotlight re-indexes the bookmarks.

You have to go into the control panels to Spotlight, click on the privacy tab, then click on the + sign at the bottom. Navigate to the Profiles folder or the alpha-numeric folder within it that ends with .default and choose it. That will stop Spotlight's indexing. You will have to do this with each Mozilla browser you have.

Symantec's anti-virus ripoff for Mac does it, too.

It's safe to nuke all the numbered bookmarks.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2006, 12:35:51 AM »
Just a few miles south of you, Gregg, in Racine--north side.  Hope you weren't one of those who got stuck in miles and miles of bottlenecks due to semis jack-knifing or just hogging the road at a stand-still??   Groaner.gif   bump.gif  It certainly was a mess in a number of places...

D76--thanks much for the info regarding Spotlight and its involvement in indexing.  Is it safe to do the same with the numbered 'cookies' files that have piled up as well??

I only use two browsers:  SeaMonkey [Mozilla based] and Safari so your suggestion should be easy enough to take care of.

Appreciate the help!!

Laurel

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2006, 07:59:31 AM »
Laurel, I think you got hit harder in the storm than we did. I didn't get stuck. I've been driving in this stuff since I got my license. I've never lived somplace that doesn't get snow.  snowglobe.gif
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2006, 10:59:05 AM »
QUOTE(sunset @ Dec 4 2006, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it safe to do the same with the numbered 'cookies' files that have piled up as well??
I don't know. That's the first time I heard of duplicating cookies. (I use AppleScripts to quit my browsers, and among other things, these scripts trash the cookie files. So if the cookies duplicated, I'd never know.)

Create a folder on the desktop and drag all the duplicated cookies into it, then restart the browser. If all the sites you need the cookies for still work properly, trash the folder on the desktop. If the sites don't work, put the cookies file with the highest number back (it would be the most recent), restart the browser and see what happens. If the sites still don't work properly, put them all back.

As an aside, it would be interesting to see whether the cookies file duplicates again when you quit the browser, even with the Spotlight privacy setting.

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2006, 12:17:22 PM »
Thanks for the tip on Spotlight. smile.gif

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2006, 12:37:46 AM »
Gregg, isn't that crazy??  Two areas can be so close in proximity and the weather can be so different--weird...  I didn't mean literally 'stuck'--just meant 'caught in all that mess'.  Glad you weren't!!!

D76, I'll try your suggestions/solutions tomorrow--we'll see what happens.  It'll probably take a while to test the web sites.  I'll check the dates and keep the most recent 'cookie' file.  Will post back when I figure it out.

Thanks, again!

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2006, 11:52:06 PM »
D76,

The bookmark files are gone as you suggested.  However, I'm hesitant to trash/move the cookies files because the mod. dates on those are strange.  There are multiple files for the same date but have slightly different times.  Guess I'll leave those alone.

One more strangeness:  I tried to do what you suggested to nix Spotlight's indexing but my 'alphanumeric' profile doesn't end in .default, it ends in .slt so I didn't do it.  Could it be because my system's running in X 10.4.6??  If it's OK to go ahead and do it anyway, let me know and I'll give it a shot.

Thanks, once again...

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 08:17:16 AM »
My apologies. I had Firefox on the brain, and its folder ends in .default. SeaMonkey's ends in .slt, so that's the folder to choose with Spotlight's privacy function.

SeaMonkey's .slt folder is inside a folder called default (which you could also choose with the privacy function instead of the .slt folder), so that's where I went wrong.

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2006, 10:53:09 AM »
thanx.gif   D76, I'll take care of that right away.  Wasn't sure and didn't want to mess anything up...   coolio.gif

Laurel