This is Magnificent!

[dolphin]

I thought this was interesting, and wasn’t sure if it was true. I looked it up and it is in fact true. I had never even heard that before…
 
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I didn't even know this was in the works! Wonderful!
I never gave much thought to what happened to all the steel
from the World Trade Center . Now you know.


SHE is the USS New York






USS New York

It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center.

It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft.

Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite , LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept. 9, 2003 , "those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing , who was there. "It was aspiritual moment for everybody there."

Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back."

The ship's motto? "Never Forget"

[kimmer]

True story, but I think that pic is of another ship. The USS New York bears the number 21, I think. By the way, this ship also survived Hurricane Katrina.

Cool rendition of the USS New York

http://www.ussnewyork.net/

http://jdndesigns.net/bb34/newny.htm

[sandbox]

That's the uss San Antonio
http://www.usssanantonio.org/

[Gregg]

QUOTE(kimmer @ Jun 14 2007, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

True story, but I think that pic is of another ship. The USS New York bears the number 21, I think.

Duh. The photo says 82% of original

17/21 = .81

Close enough for me.

[kimmer]

Sorry, Dolphin and Gregg. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

[sandbox]

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This is Magnificent!, So befitting

I don't get it? How is this befitting?

When the topic of what to do with the steel came up most agreed to return it to the place from where it came, built into the new building on site.

The idea of placing it on the nose of a ship to symbolize the vengeful resurrection of the fallen seemed to me a bit odd actually. A 21st century ship built to fight a 9th century invader that has no navy, no water, and not even close to a sea that could be navigated by such a vessel. I don't know what sort of appetite this sort of symbolism feeds, but the truth is on the ground. IMO

[Gregg]

QUOTE(kimmer @ Jun 15 2007, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sorry, Dolphin and Gregg. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

What do you think anyone was offended by?

Math humor is a stretch, of course.

[gunug]

I think "befitting" is an okay word.  I'm against the "current situation" we're involved in but I've got enough ingrained patriotism in me that I can see an appropriateness in this. Part of me also thinks: "how ironic!"

[dolphin]

QUOTE(kimmer @ Jun 15 2007, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sorry, Dolphin and Gregg. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Kimmer...no offense taken. After looking closely at the picture again...I was able to see the 17 on the side of it. However; I did not know that 21 was the number of the New York.  I need to get my spectacles adjusted

[Dreambird]

QUOTE(gunug @ Jun 16 2007, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think "befitting" is an okay word.  I'm against the "current situation" we're involved in but I've got enough ingrained patriotism in me that I can see an appropriateness in this. Part of me also thinks: "how ironic!"

Please understand... I mean no disrespect or offense, but I'm afraid you may be mistaking a feeling of (need for) revenge for patriotism... the feeling is human, but when acted upon too fervently it doesn't necessarily end up being a good thing.

When I read this thread a quote came back to my head... but it took me awhile to pin it down. This was without a doubt the best time I ever spent following a SciFi show... one can sometimes learn a lot "at the knee", so to speak of a talented storyteller. Especially one who can keep a 5 year arc related enough to contemporary actual situations that the story not only entertains but speaks to the watcher. Of course it doesn't hurt that I met the series creator personally too...

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"Among Minbari, one individual leads, but we move as one. We are at our best when we move together, and we are at our worst when we move together. When our leader was killed by your people, we went mad together. We stayed mad for a very long time, a madness that almost consumed your world, until finally, before it was too late, we woke up together. But you, you are alone, you have no one to awaken you from your madness. For this, and nothing else, I feel pity for you."

   -- Delenn to Sniper in Babylon 5:"Ceremonies of Light and Dark"

Ceremonies of Light and Dark

[kimmer]

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Of course it doesn't hurt that I met the series creator personally too.

Oh. My. Word.

You met JMS?

May I worship at your feet?

B5 - the SciFi show that made me a SciFi fan (limited - because it sucked me in and spoiled me and it was after the fact via DVD).

I adore this show.
Ask Sneakers.

We own the entire series on DVD.
We own all the movies on DVD.

I downloaded the lurkers site (he has ftp access) because I don't want to lose all the great info.

I use his sound bytes as the system alert and email alert sounds on my Mac.

If I had been a fan while this show was actually on TV, I would have been a total "fan girl". Seriously.

QUOTE(dolphin @ Jun 16 2007, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Kimmer...no offense taken. After looking closely at the picture again...I was able to see the 17 on the side of it. However; I did not know that 21 was the number of the New York.  I need to get my spectacles adjusted

I only knew because a friend had sent me this in an email and asked me to verify it for her.

Glad I didn't upset you two.

[Dreambird]

kimmer...

It's funny you should say "at your feet" because I always felt I had one of the best seats in house at the Convention JMS came to here in Calgary. The hall was crammed, I came with 2 friends, we had run in and secured 3 seats in the front row... I ran out last minute to grab a book for sale in the room next door to get autographed knowing that my friends would let me in up front of them on the floor, if they couldn't hold the seat... so that's where I sat, at the man's feet... sort of...

They allowed a row of 1 person deep on the floor up front. Worked for me!

I've always been a scifi fan, long as I can remember back as a kid watching Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, Star Trek...

There's a new movie coming out next month on DVD... I "think" it may be the first of a series, not sure:

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Synopsis:

Times change. Dangers remain. 10 years after he became President of the Interstellar Alliance, Sheridan prepares for a fateful Babylon 5 reunion that could prevent Earth’s impending doom…if he will also compromise his core principles. Meanwhile, commander Lochley confronts an unexpected interloper on the way station – a being whose presence makes the B5 freeport the crossroads between heaven and hell.

In Voices in the Dark, Series creator J. Michael Straczynski reunites with stars Bruce Boxleitner and Tracy Scoggins in two richly imagined stories set after the events of the original series. Richly imagined, too, is Straczynski’s vision of the 23rd century (including a dazzling New York City) – a vision made more spectacular via filmmaking technology unavailable during the original series.

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/118.html

[sandbox]

QUOTE(gunug @ Jun 16 2007, 06:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think "befitting" is an okay word.  I'm against the "current situation" we're involved in but I've got enough ingrained patriotism in me that I can see an appropriateness in this. Part of me also thinks: "how ironic!"

"Love of country is like love of woman -- he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good."

[kimmer]

QUOTE(Dreambird @ Jun 16 2007, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

... so that's where I sat, at the man's feet... sort of...

Oh gads. I would have been besides myself.   Sneakers gets a chuckle out of this because I am so far from being a "fan girl" of any kind .... yet this show really bowled me over. I would have done the whole thing -- autographs, t-shirts, posters ... goofy I guess.

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There's a new movie coming out next month on DVD...

Ummmm ... preordered it months ago.

I hate to derail Dolphin's thread ... is there maybe a sailing boat in the movie?

[Gregg]

QUOTE(Dreambird @ Jun 16 2007, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Please understand... I mean no disrespect or offense, but I'm afraid you may be mistaking a feeling of (need for) revenge for patriotism... the feeling is human, but when acted upon too fervently it doesn't necessarily end up being a good thing.

I don't know that finding satisfaction that steel from destroyed buildings was turned into a "destroyer" is necessarily an expression of revenge. (I don't know the class of the ship, just taking poetic license.) It's not like the ship was built specifically to "go after" the perpetrators of the 9/11 massacre. That would be revenge.

The military is a symbol of our nation, whether everyone likes that or not. Many people around the world only know of the US because of the military. Some like us as a result, many don't. Most would see the irony in the transformation of the steel.