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Offline Buck

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« on: August 16, 2007, 09:24:52 PM »
Earlier today there was a power outage in our area. When power was restored. I re-booted my eMac. It was in sleep mode at the time the power outage. The first thing I noticed all my Widgets ended up in the trash.
Missing from my Dock were all the third party add-ons. (ie) Opera Browser, Onyx,
Main Menu, Cocktail, ect,ect. The Dock looked as if it never had any add-ons at all. Now none of these third party apps no longer work. By that I mean they function to a point then stop  progressing but remain running.
The calander and clock can not be re-set or can anything else for that matter. Because that little colorful pinwheel won’t stop spining and I have to force quit. In the Force Quit window is the message: So & so is not responding. Also the start up chim is very faint. On a scale of one to ten, ten being the loudest. It’s like around a four. Volume control is Maxed.
I ran Applejack. Ran Disk Utility from another startup CD. That would be the OS X CD. Zapped the P-Ram.I can’t get the eMac software install CD to boot. Plus the Disk Worrior and the Techtool Pro V. 4.0.3 won’t boot. Seems I need to updrade them for them to run on this machine.
And thats about it. Good luck on this one ya'll.
 Thanks, Buck

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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 07:36:13 AM »
Got insurance?

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 08:27:29 AM »
Sheesh! How was I to know that a power outage would make ones computer go wacko!    whistling.gif

Once the power was re-stored & I went online, and my isp ( AT&T/Bellsouth) had to reset the computer.    sweatingbullets.gif

Everything is back to normal. What is normal anyway.   dry.gif

Thanks any way, Ya'll    Buck


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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 09:04:43 AM »
Buck,

Glad to hear that all is again, right with the world. Still...

If there is any way you can afford it, an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) is well worth the investment (IMNHO).

Not only do they protect your computer (and peripherals) during a power spike/surge or interruption, it will also groom the power so that the numerous power fluctuations, that are otherwise invisible, will be significantly dampened. This has an added benefit that the innerds of your computer will last longer.

As they say: "Data not worth protectin, ain't worth havin". Well, somthing like that.

APC is my brand of choice. But most any is better than none.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 11:07:25 AM »
I do have an Energizer Surge Protecter.
This is the reason I couldn't understand what was going on.
On this device are two rows w/ three outlets.
One side says "surge protecter fault".
The other row says "site wire fault".
Th computer is pluged into the S.P.F. side.
Would this have anything to do w/v what happened?

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 05:49:04 PM »
First, a power outage is just like pulling the plug while your computer is on ( sleeping or not ). That's not usually the best way to "shut down" any computer. Period.

Second, a "surge protector" is better than a stick in the eye, but not by much. It will do absolutely nothing for a power outage. Nor will it help in a low voltage situation ( brown out ). And most will not even do much for a real surge of power. Many will simply 'sacrifice' a part and become useless for their intended purpose from that time on. If designed properly, they will notify you somehow that they have 'given their life' and saved your equipment ( a light, a sound, some smoke? ).

Apple has always used high quality, buffered power supplies. That is a great way to filter/smooth the power from small peaks and lows. But the only way to guard your expensive equipment is with an Uninterruptable Power Supply. There's a link to APS in Sir Pendragon's post above. There are other brands. Read and compare as many as possible and check carefully what/how they do their magic.

But also be aware that they actually will only provide power to a certain number of devices, one doesn't normally power a printer from the protected outlets ( lasers simply draw way too much power and inkjets don't need to even be on when you're not printing ). Nor will they power anything forever. You usually buy a unit that will power as many computers as you'll have running fro at least long enough to power them down, normally. Many good UPSs will do the powering down ( shutting down ) automatically ( that could be helpful if you have the machines running when you're not at home ).

The side benefit of a good UPS is that they also protect you from the brownouts as well as the surges. But in a different way than most inexpensive 'surge protectors'. Of course, since they do so much more and some things so much better, they end up costing more. But I think you certainly can get your monies worth, especially if you value the info on your computer. smile.gif
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2007, 05:55:14 PM »
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Once the power was re-stored & I went online, and my isp ( AT&T/Bellsouth) had to reset the computer.
This is extremely confusing to me. Thinking.gif Your first post states that you could not get the computer to boot. But you apparently found a successful way to do that.

But I fail to see what AT&T has to do with your computer. I suspect you mean they reset your DSL modem. Is that what happened? That is certainly one of the devices I would plug into an UPS. Even though it doesn't normally have a 'shut down' procedure, it can be affected by surges/brownouts.

What brand/model number does that modem have? They are usually accessible from your browser and you can 'reset' them without contacting the ISP/provider (which often involves a lot of irritating Musak!  tongue.gif ).
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 09:45:45 PM »
Thanks! I'll be looking in to the UPS thing.
As 4 my DSL modem, it's a Westell model 2200.
 I have re-set this modem in the past.