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Offline Bill

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« on: February 15, 2003, 01:08:00 PM »
that these aren't the old --fell off a truck -- scam.  

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lax/sys/8709733.html
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2003, 03:01:00 PM »
Hmmmm......does Craig List have a "report this illegal so & so"?
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2003, 03:44:00 PM »
I hope that soon we shall see the notice: "This Site No Longer Available" and that Craig is a guest of the state.

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2003, 05:09:00 PM »
I just reported the URL to Adobe piracy officials.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2003, 05:12:00 PM »
Bill,
If it fell off the truck, it must have been headed for MacMall!    

This person must have no idea what kind of trouble they could suffer putting this on a public forum or else there just stupid.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2003, 07:41:00 PM »
Craigslist is ok but it is not - over seen - 24/7

You see some .. err .. wild ads there some times.
Lately I've noticed people who want to 'buy' for peanuts on the dollar. Suspect they're kids.
Stuff like " I will buy a G4 500 or higher for $250. Tops $300. email me".

*They* do catch and nail most of the really bad guys though.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2003, 08:17:00 PM »
Here's an example from not to long ago on a G4s sale at C-List.
I was curious on how this seller could low-ball apples prices.so I sent out an email asking one small sentence
 "Where are you located?"

Before I forget. The people who hold the keys to that site bounced the seller off their site. They tried to repost the same ad by changing the wordings and got 86st again.

Also I NEVER REPEAT email replies past me!
This is the only exception because this seller was so [insert any phrase/word you want] that they tried again on the same auction site and yahoos.
Talk about air bubbles in the head. These guys invented air!

Prime example of to-good-to-be-true.
>I did a bit of editing of course.<

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Subject: Re: G4
 
From: "Vitaly Jones" <exim@xxxx.com>
To: me

Greetings!

I have received your inquiry about the product we have for sale and i am
hoping that this email will completely answer all of the questions which you
may
possibly have to ask.

We have 8 of the PowerMac's G4 currently left in stock.  Each unit cost
supplied with 22" Apple Active Matrix TFT display is only $ 1650 including
shipping and handling charges. You will only have to pay additional $ 100
around fee to process transfer of funds.

The Serials for the systems are :

QT45900444443 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QT34590955340 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QT4994kk5d9l9 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QT49494333559 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QT58fkf890444 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QT4599589444f POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QT54er4588433 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL
QTrk499333399 POWERMAC PC G4 1.25GHZ DUAL

I am also including original pictures of the merchandise to this email as an
.jpg format files.( They show the same similar system you will be getting ,
not the right one you are ordering as it factory sealed and unopened ).

Here are the complete specs for the system :

Apple PowerMac G4 Dual 1.25Ghz

Audio Output:
Sound card

Cache Memory:
4 MB L3 cache - DDR SRAM

Cache Per Processor Size:
2 MB

Communications:
Fax / modem - integrated - 56 Kbps ( V.92 )

Dimensions (WxDxH):
8.9 in x 18.4 in x 17 in

Form Factor:
Tower

Localization:
English / United States

Monitor:
22" Apple Active Matrix Display.

Networking:
Network adapter - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet

Optical Storage:
1 x CD-RW / DVD-RW - 24x (CD) / 6x (DVD) (read) / 8x (CD) / 2x (DVD) (write)
/ 4x (rewrite) - internal

OS Provided:
Apple MacOS X 10.2 / MacOS 9.2

Power:
AC 110/220 V ? 9% ( 50/60 Hz )

Processor:
2 x PowerPC G4 1.25 GHz

Product Description:
Apple Power Macintosh G4 - PPC G4 1.25 GHz

RAM:
2 GB - DDR SDRAM - 166 MHz - DDR333/PC2700

Storage Controller:
IDE / EIDE ( DMA/ATA-100 (Ultra) )

Storage Hard Drive:
1 x 120 GB - standard - DMA/ATA-100 (Ultra)

Type:
Workstation

Video Output:
Graphics card - AGP 4x - GeForce Ti4600 Ultra (330/660Mhz) - 128 MB - DDR
SDRAM

Warranty:
1 year warranty

Weight:
42.1 lbs

Operating System / Software
OS Provided:
Apple MacOS X  preinstalled
Software Included:
Drivers & Utilities, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Adobe Acrobat Reader,
FAXstf, EarthLink, Apple QuickTime, Apple iTunes, Apple Hardware Test, Apple
Mac OS X Mail, Apple iPhoto, GraphicConverter, OmniOutliner, OmniGraffle,
PixelNhance, Snapz Pro X, Apple iMovie, Apple iChat, Apple iCal, Apple iDVD,
Art Directors Toolkit.

If those specifications match your needs please read the following
information to find out the unit history and get a purchase and contact
information.

We are legitimate business which is in a market for 2 years already and we
are registred  with license number : 890-0313-919.

We are subsidiary of Ukrainian governments international UKR EXIM BANK which
is one of the larget Ukrainian banks and established years ago in Ex-USSR.

Also we are subsidiary of cyberINC located in Paris , France. cyberINC has
been in business since 1993 and has built a solid reputation based on
integrity and delivering the highest quality products and services at
affordable prices. Our customers are comprised of the individual user up to
Fortune 100 mobile sales forces.

In case if you place your order during Monday to Friday latest 21PM EST  it
will only take 72 business hours to deliver the product right by your door
guaranteed with FedEx International shipping carrier. Even as our sales
department is located in Ukraine the products are being delivered to you
from our warehouse which is located in France.

Each item was originaly purchased from USA so they are completely US
standart which means US Power Supply compataible and US version softwares
included.
Products are totaly brand new , factory sealed and ready to be registered
with clear forms and get covered with manufacturers warranties.

The products are absolutely legitimate. The only reason for the such low
price you see they are being sold is that we sell them for the WHOLESALE
manufacturers
pricing which you NEVER can get anywhere else as the only reason for this
that we need to return the units costs ASAP not to make profits.

There are 2 options to proceed with payment for your order . The Money
Transfer option guarantees you 72 hours delivery as it shows funds
availability in minutes
neither as credit card which sometimes takes a week to complete a charge,we
are sorry for the any troubles this may convince to you but this is only due
to the low bandwith of local billing processors.

The first option is to pay with Western Union Money Transfer service.

You will transfer funds physicaly to a person who process your order and
will only take few hours to ship it then as they show the availability of
funds only during next 15 minutes.

To insure and guarantee the delivery to you you will hold the 10 digit
reciept number ( MTCN ) which is required on our side for
the withdraw of funds until you receive your product. Please be sure to add
and option to "Call receiver about money incoming" with the Money Transfer
as without this MTCN we are not able to track the status of money also so
they will just call us and inform that the money are set , so then we will
just have to
wait until you receive and inspect your merchandise for 48 hours and then
inform us with the receipt number so we can succesfully withdraw payment.

Please note that Western Union policies in the Ukraine are litle different
from the ones in USA as there you will only need to
know information about sender of funds as hes adress and name to receive
money ,but at the same time here in Ukraine you
will need a valid PASSPORT id and STRICTLY REQUIRED MTCN receipt number ,
those information may be confirmed with Ukrainian Western Union
customer service.

Here are the complete instructions to place an order with Money Transfer
method :

Visit local office of  an agency which called Western Union and  transfers
money digitaly worldwide , you may look for a nearest office of their
company with http://www.westernunion.com with Find An Agent Location Option.

In their brench fill a form to send new money transfer for the amount which
covers your order  using the details of the sales person working on your
order , they are the following :

XXXXXX  XXXXXXX
Srednefontanskaya str.34-28
Odessa ,Ukraine
65039

Office contact number :

1-800-XXXX or 1-877-XXXXX

After the charge you will get 10 digit Money Transfer Control Number  which
will give you way to track the status of money, tracking is avaialable
online at www.westernunion.com or with their voice-recording phone service.

Then you will have to email us with the folowing informations required for
your order receipt  :

Your complete name.
Both of you adresses : Shipping and Billing (The one you have used with
Western Union as Senders Adress)
Your contact phone numbers.
The products you have ordered.
Amount you have transfered for doublecheck.

Once you have emailed us with all of this information we will email you back
with the official order receipt of your order electonicaly signed with the
Premier Sales Manager of the company.

The second option is email form order which .

We do accept Visa and MasterCard credit cards.

You will have to supply us with such info in a matter to place an order :

Your complete name as it appears on a credit card.

Your complete Billing and Shipping adresses authorized with the Bank.

Your contact phone numbers available.

Your Bank name and contact phone number for verification purposes.

Your credit card number and expire date.

CVV2 3 digit security code from the back of your credit card.

Your date of birth .

Once you are ready to email us with all of information requsted here and
ready to place an order please send us an email with the all informations or
reach us over the phone to place your order.

If you have any serious questions reach our office at :********

Will be waiting for any of your questions ,

With best regards ,

xxxxxxxxxxxx
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2003, 08:20:00 PM »
I flagged it.  After reading the forums, it appears Craig does keep on top of it.
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Fear those who do not care; they neither kill nor betray, but betrayal and murder exist because of their silent consent.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2003, 10:11:00 AM »
I see you cruise C-list Bill. I do  about once a day  for deals around town here where I can simply drive over and check the Systems or parts out in person. Like many online Sites you've really got to beware of the bad guys.  Have you noticed Craigslist is really Growing and how there pulling the ads that are Bunko?
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2003, 02:31:00 PM »
Sure have noticed *they* are now clamping down on the "bunkos" Bernie.  

Did ya catch that one poster a few weeks back saying "We should have a age limit of three year olds and up"?
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2003, 04:16:00 PM »
No Bill I haven't really been at C-list at all. Today is the first day in 3 weeks I'm here on my Mac with Munchies of course Cruisin! Wish I could be at the Car show today in Old Temecula. I think it's today? I've been hauling Freight and with the military getting ready for possible war. Much0! Cargo is being shipped via Air  
Driving to Temecula is the last thing I feel like doing. I just got back from Grocery shopping with Ann and the 2 miles drive to Ralphs Mkt Made me tired. You know how Woman are. Sometimes I think  that they are waiting for the products on the shelves to talk to them or something! LOL    You know what I mean. Anyway. I'm now going to look for some goodies at   http://losangeles.craigslist.org/
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2003, 05:17:00 PM »
I didn't go Bernie. Figured with everything still all muddy around here there wouldn't be much of a showing.
Would you want your nice shinny BMW all caked up with mud by the end of the day?
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