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Is comcast messing with VoIP
« on: January 20, 2009, 04:13:31 AM »
The FCC thinks so
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090...-with-voip.html

Hey all you poor Comcasters don't these disparaging stories give you the warm and fuzzies. wink.gif

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Is comcast messing with VoIP
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 02:57:05 PM »
I've never seen "warm and fuzzies" used in the same sentence with "cable companies!" laugh.gif

I have no real idea how Comcast will explain the difference between its VoIP and a competitors, using Comcast's cable. But, I can see them argue that their service goes directly to the phone company from it's servers in whatever city they happen to be in. While a competitors may have their servers in another city and so require another bit of travel down the 'pipes' before it reaches a server connected to the phone lines. dntknw.gif Of course, that also assumes that Comcast is not already connecting their competitors to the phone lines at the same time/place that they do their own customers. That mey be one way Comcast has in offering the competitors a penny off the 'standard rates' that their customers get. Maybe 2 pennies! Just enough to entice the competitors to use Comcast 'facilities' but not enough to allow them to be much of a competitor in price! Of course, the actual difference between 'retail' and 'wholesale' charges may be significant. But Comcast may also claim that's why the service is less than their own, also. You pays for what you get, if you pay Comcast! wink.gif
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Is comcast messing with VoIP
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 01:46:41 AM »
Jim,

So far Comcast's argument seems to be that they use ports other than port 80 to run their VoIP UDP data through, where a third party will run over the same port as TCP Port 80. Because they are two different protocols they don't interfere with each other and so making the System Strain argument is very weak. I use a third party VoIP, and if there was a better one available I'd use it, but Vontage or any of the In-House VoIP's on the market just don't get you there like VoicePulse.

The FCC has given away the farm on this one, the poles are on public easements and they should be a utility only service. They certainly get enough for their services and never reach the claimed speed or capacity that I have in my contract.

It was a bad plan right from the start that left rural areas out in the cold. The best move for a new internet service is to make it a public utility or force the providers to fulfill the promises they made when they received the huge subsidies for building in rural America and completing the last mile.

Every provider claims to have redundancy in their system, but when 4 pm comes along the systems overload and come to a crawl. When you ask why, they say "it's the time of day", when you mention to them that last week they wrote about the huge over capacity they had, they blame that on management. The fact is that we pay full price for a party line and the consumer is getting the shaft. Day by day the providers find ways to cheat the consumer a little more, they grow and merge to become too big to fail or too big to sue or too big to get a straight answer from.  wink.gif
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