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Offline Xairbusdriver

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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2009, 02:42:41 PM »
Hate to beat a dead horse, but...
QUOTE("buck")
Running OSX 10.4.11./ Tiger. Install disk is V.10.4 Tiger, CD is Black w/ grey X.
still doesn't answer the question tacit raised. Is this the CD/DVD that came with the eMac? Since it is "grey," it is definitely not a retail install disk. It is a disk that came with some Mac. If that is not the eMac, it will probably never work/install anything on it. And whether or not your DVD/CD drive is working is a moot point, in this instance.
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2009, 04:13:34 AM »
The "CD is black". The X is grey so it is a retail disc.

Which brings up the question of whether this is a DVD or is it only one of the many CDs that make up the Tiger install.  Thinking.gif
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 05:57:33 PM »
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The "CD is black". The X is grey so it is a retail disc.
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2009, 09:44:14 AM »
Someone here said to leave the USB cable out of this equation. BINGO!
Hey! It worked! I got to do the clean install.
This cleared up the reason for this post to begin with. No more excessive pinwheel spinning & browser crashing.
The system I replaced was a mess. As it was I couldn't even run APPLEJACK. It took me some 9, 10 hours to get things up and running properly.
All is well in MY world once again. Thanks to you all who jumped in to help. Kudos to you, Buck

P.S. Who is the one that said to leave the USB cable out.
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2009, 03:12:10 PM »
I believe it was Paddy. Can we assume, then, that you had the drive connected via USB? rolleyes.gif An important question to add to my list. wallbash.gif
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2009, 04:57:39 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ May 23 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe it was Paddy. Can we assume, then, that you had the drive connected via USB? rolleyes.gif An important question to add to my list. wallbash.gif


For lack of instructions, I had the Firewire and USB connected. Do not use the USB when booting to clean install. Firewire only. whistling.gif
I put a memo in the EX Drives storage container. Thinking.gif
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2009, 08:43:49 PM »
Uhmn...OK...Thinking.gif dntknw.gif
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2009, 01:45:16 PM »
QUOTE(Buck @ May 23 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...For lack of instructions, I had the Firewire and USB connected.

Do not use the USB when booting to clean install. Firewire only...


To clarify this point for any future readers of this thread, non-Intel Macs* cannot boot from external USB devices.  

If the external drive contains a bootable system and connects via FIREWIRE, it CAN boot the Mac [either Intel or non-Intel] .

AFAIK, this is due to the 'boot load order' of the system's USB Drivers; as the Operating System begins to load its components during the boot process, the USB Drivers have not yet been loaded by the time the hardware 'looks' for the system software needed to complete the booting.

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* starting in 2006, Apple began shipping Macs designed around Intel processors, and over the following year or so, converted its entire model lineup to Intel.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2009, 03:13:58 PM »
I'm not sure what the Mac thought when seeing both FireWire and USB connections, even though it should have been able to use the FireWire path to boot. I know it confused me when you said both were connected, probably confused the Mac, also! Could be that only Optical drives are a problem, I have both a firewire and USB cable running to my external drive. Thinking.gif It boots just fine, but it also would boot much faster than an Optical drive. dntknw.gif If you don't have other USB devices connected to that drive, I see no reason to connect that to it at all. Even FireWire 400 will consistently be as fast or even faster than USB 2. wink.gif
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2009, 03:58:15 PM »
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Macs cannot boot to external USB devices.


This is simply not true when talking about an Intel Mac.

And as Buck discovered, it is not a good idea to connect to an external drive using the USB 2.0 and Firewire interfaces simultaneously. Some folks try it thinking they will gain faster data transfer speeds but it doesn't work and it can cause more serious problems than Buck experienced...
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2009, 03:34:20 PM »
QUOTE(Mayo @ May 24 2009, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Macs cannot boot to external USB devices.


This is simply not true when talking about an Intel Mac.


Yes, I forgot about this.  Thanks for pointing out my omission.  I'm gonna amend my 'summary' post above.

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