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« on: May 31, 2003, 07:42:45 PM »
Not quite sure why I'm letting this bother me so, other than the fact that I can't seem to fix it, but here goes:

The thread the other day from Micky got me started on this - when I had a look at my own Classic installation, I discovered that it had gone astray. I got the message
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The previously selected system folder "/IBM - OS9.2.2/System Folder", is no longer available. Please select another system folder to use with Classic.


If I clicked on that partition, I got "IBM OS 9.2.2 could not be opened because you do not have sufficient privileges".

Aha, says I...I'll repair my permissions. WRONG ANSWER. No change. Ran DFA - both from OS X and from an OS 9 disk. Tried re-running the 9.2.2 updater on that partition. Nope and nope.

So then I logged in as root. Well, lo and behold, we had two "Previous System Folders" but no System Folder! Where had it gone? Who knows. Tried tricking it into using one of the Previous System Folders by lopping off the Previous in the name - well, that didn't work (didn't think it would). So, now I'm contemplating one of two things - logging back in as Root and backing up anything useful on that partition to somewhere else and then wiping the partition (drastic solution) or trying to simply copy a system folder from my 9.2.2 installation on another partition into the offending one - and then doing the nuisance work of comparing all the third party bits.

The silly part of all this is that I cannot honestly remember the last time I actually USED Classic. I did boot into 9.2.2 (the offending partition) about two months ago for some reason which I have now forgotten - it worked then. This all seems to have happened since I upgraded to 10.2.5 on the new drive. Oh - further tidbit, in all of this fiddling, I did try booting into 10.1.5 on the old drive and at that point, the 9.2.2 partition showed up as the partition to be used in Classic. Why does 10.1.5 think there is a blessed, working System Folder when 10.2.6 (yes, tried updating to that too, to see if it would fix things) doesn't? wacko.gif

And the answer to Micky's problem probably isn't fixing his permissions either - he needs to read this Apple article (none of which worked for me though):

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106678
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2003, 08:24:18 PM »
What does Disk Warrior say? smile.gif
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2003, 08:27:38 PM »
oh my... huh.gif

Isn't computing fun?  tongue.gif  rolleyes.gif


I often wonder what will be the next "strange but true" thing that happens to my Mac.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2003, 09:03:10 PM »
Kelly, I never got around to running Disk Warrior, though it did occur to me. DFA reported no problems after fixing some custom icons.

It seems that the permissions for that partition were very screwed up. When I checked them, they said that the partition was owned by "System". So, while logged on as Root I selected "ignore ownership on this volume" thinking that would solve it. And BTW - when logged on as Root, I was able to start up Classic using the renamed "Previous System folder". Go figure.

So, logged back in as mice-elf, and still NO DICE with the system folder named "System Folder" (the one that starts up just fine when I'm logged on as Root) - but it now gives me the "Previous System Folder 2" as an option for Classic - the one that is OS 9.1!!! Ok, this is getting really tiresome. So, I copied the system folder from the other working 9.2.2 partition (again having to log on as Root to do this) and voila. It now works. I still have the "ignore ownership on this volume" checked - kind of afraid to fiddle with it at this point! Of course, I still have to compare the third party stuff is in the new System Folder, but considering that Classic isn't somewhere I go very often, I'll leave that for the bottom of the priority list.

Why or how this particular partition got so messed up in the permissions/ownership department is beyond me. And yes, it's probably worth running DW on it too. Got to investigate the new version of DW for OS X also.

Well, wasn't that a fun way to spend Saturday night? wallbash.gif

Methinks that there is a big job for Carbon Copy Cloner coming up soon...a final clean up of that IBM drive and off to the scrap heap for most of 9.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2003, 12:39:43 AM »
Paddy,  just a thought here...  was the System Folder, nee 'Previous System Folder' blessed when you checked it?  Did you 'bless' it the old way to make sure it'd be recognized as the one to be used on that partition?  You're w-a-y ahead of me with this technical stuff but I don't think I read about that part in your post.  Just curious???  wacko.gif

Good luck--that's a strange kettle of fish!   smile.gif
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