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Another advantage of large drives
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2010, 04:16:25 PM »
They are supposed to be on the external drive. But I haven't seen hide nor hair of the SD one, it was running when the crash occurred and may have destroyed itself. Unfortunately TM won't display anything but the time lines earlier than yesterday. I have, contrary to comments elsewhere, simply grabbed some items from the TM backup via Finder. That's not the way it's supposed to work, of course, so I don't intend to use that method unless absolutely necessary.

I'm slowly downloading third-party apps and stuff as I come across the need. Many of them request a serial number or key. Some of them have that stuff stored in 1Password and it's a simple matter to get it from there. And the 1Password backups are pure. clap.gif Just noticed when I setup a spot in 1Password for a new app's info, it automagically find the version number from the installed app. Nice touch! wink.gif
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2010, 05:20:32 PM »
That's why I rotate 2 external backup drives (both SD!), and store one in my Safe Deposit Box, rotating every couple of weeks.

That way I can recover at least the vast majority of stuff. Apps, data. etc.

The Time Machine backup is attached to my iMac so I can recover recent stuff I may have mucked up somehow. -

I've used it a couple of times since initiating on August 24th.

But then I have become a backup freak!

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2010, 07:20:59 PM »
Jim, I really feel for you.

For my own edumacation (before I wind up with a toasted drive) ...
  1. The failed drive was the main HD in your newest iMac?
  2. Your SD and TM backups were on an external drive that was wiped? Is that drive toast, or just wiped of info?
  3. Was there *any* advanced warning that either of the drives might fail?
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Just noticed when I setup a spot in 1Password for a new app's info, it automagically find the version number from the installed app. Nice touch!

Obviously I need to figure out how to have 1Password do this for me.

Yeesh, this could give a person sleepless nights. wink.gif

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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2010, 08:36:51 AM »
1. Yes.
2. That drive was not damaged. However, there is no trace of any SD backup. I have not yet re-installed SD and that may allow it to be found. dntknw.gif SD happened to be running when the internal drive crashed.
From what I understood, Time Machine should have been able to use the previous backups since it identifies it by the hardwired, MAC info of each machine.

In another brain disconnect, I didn't realize that the new drive had Tiger installed instead of Snow Leopard. Whether that had anything to do with the lack of it recognizing the TM backup, I don't know. TM shows the timeline all the way back into 2008, but it will not show anything before the return of the repaired iMac. The TM backup is on an external drive and the items can be viewed in a Finder window. And I have moved a few items back onto the new drive with a simple drag 'n drop in Finder. However, I don't think that is an approved method, but so far, so good. I definitely know that erasing or renaming items in the TM backup via Finder is not safe!

Speaking of "brain disconnects," I am ashamed to admit that I also managed to wipe all my Contact data off my iPhone. I had always told iTunes to sync the data by using what is on the computer as I seldom add any info to the iPhone first. Of course, when I saw the opportunity to sync, I used my old method...which quietly erased all the data on the iPhone since there was nothing on the repaired drive! wallbash.gif rolleyes.gif Of course, it wasn't my fault, it was the fact that there are only 24 hours in a day and I had already used up too many of them! If there had been more time, I would have had time to actually engage my brain! rant.gif

3. No. The first sign of trouble was the "progress bar" in SD not moving. Then other apps started freezing. Since much of any apps code is only loaded when needed, any request for a task for which the code was still on the drive resulted in a freeze of that app. Eventually, nothing was working, including Finder. That finally got my attention and I said, "That's not right. I think there is something wrong?" And, once again, I was right! That, by the way, was the last time I was right... laughhard.gif

Amazingly, I got an email from an elderly friend asking if he should take his wife's continuing suggestion that he get a backup drive! I think my stupidity has scared him away from any more advice... rofl.gif

I gotta go enter some more info in Address Book... blush-anim-cl.gif
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2010, 03:15:33 PM »
I'm Importing the Apple Mail messages and mailboxes as I write this. I'll next go looking for the Address Book data.
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2010, 06:01:15 PM »
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3. No. The first sign of trouble was the "progress bar" in SD not moving.

Oh wow! This is the stuff that nightmares are made of! eek2.gif

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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM »
Please don't mention "nightmares" when it's two hours later here than there! eek2.gif

I have managed to get my Address Book re-populated (and back on the iPhone!), and also iCal (although that is little used). Right now I'm stuck with Apple thinking I have a new machine so I can't "Authorize" it until I de-authorize the old one. I know I saw a page at their site that lists all the authorized machines...gotta go find it...
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes: