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« on: March 10, 2012, 01:52:56 PM »
This is from my local users group people,,,,,below my questions,,,,,,
I wonder if I would like it, or be advanced enough in coding to be able to use it. I have Text Wrangler but never really figured out how to use it, as I code entirely by hand.
Any advice?
Should I buy it and try to learn with the book?
I hear its a super program.
Thanks,
Jane

"New Ebook for Text Mavens: "Take Control of BBEdit"
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/bbedit?pt=...;cp=CPN90219MUG

A quick aside: At $49.99, BBEdit is cheap for the power it brings, but if you aren't using it now and want to get a sense of what it provides, check out the free TextWrangler, also from Bare Bones Software. TextWrangler lacks BBEdit's HTML tools, clippings, text factories, text completion, and projects, but has the same basic interface and core editing and searching features. "Take Control of BBEdit" doesn't call out differences between TextWrangler and BBEdit, but much of it applies to both apps."
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 04:42:11 PM »
The e-book is on sale, but it is pretty light on really covering BBEdit's power. BBEdit already has a huge manual and a very large following. Much as I dislike Google Groups, surely <one of these> will help with any questions you have on either product. wink.gif
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 06:29:59 PM »
We have so much fun stuff going on, Lilly, kids and grandkids,  and Im still taking classes that it seems there is no time for much, housework bahhhh,
but the learning opportunities are so wonderful, for us and the kids that it makes me want to hesitate to take on a new software, though this one might help me with my web stuff.
Should I just buy the program for 50 bucks, which seems very cheap for what it contains, and then later on worry about learning it?
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 07:53:10 AM »
Been looking at your link, its pretty amazing.
I probably should buy it. And work with it as I go along.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 11:22:27 AM »
Jane, I had BBEdit 6.5, but find I can hand code just as well in Dreamweaver (and learn as I go along) - and I have TextWrangler too. I don't build sites entirely by hand though, as they tend to be big and I use Dreamweaver's templating abilities as well as a number of nice plug-ins I've bought over the years (Project Seven menus etc.). Now I've started doing sites on the Wordpress platform, which is pretty interesting too - and in order to do custom sites with it, you do need to have some knowledge of CSS, HTML and at least a vague idea of what a PHP script looks like. There are lots of sources of online help for this too.

I know quite a number of Mac handcoders like Coda (from the same people who make Transmit).

http://www.panic.com/coda/

http://www.designerstalk.com/forums/softwa...-vs-bbedit.html

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 11:52:43 AM »
I just bought BBEdit from the App store, and Im looking at it now, a bit of a learning curve, but not as high as Dreameweaver.  I like the older versions of DW, and have made some nice photo albums with it.

I am taking a class in Wordpress now, its fun!  Its so darn easy. Ive put in my own background pictures and stuff like that, but you have to stick with their themes unless you get the wordpress.org one. Their code is way way too complex for me to mess with though. I stick with stuff pretty basic.

This is pretty much the extent of my abilities at the moment,
http://www.jcarter.net/lawrence-island/may-fun.html
Though I have learned how to use the Dynamic drive goodies for fun effects.

Its a lot of fun learning how to do this!  I enjoy it a lot especially in winter when I have time to play with computer stuff.

CSSEdit, I saw that program too, but doesnt BBEdit have a CSS edit part in it?

Thank you,
Jane
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 10:38:02 AM »
BBEdit is an extremely powerful TEXT editor. And that is all any programming language needs...text (and a compiler for some). It also has Syntax checking but you must tell it what language you are using since the Syntax varies from one to another.

So, you can create/edit (all flavors) of HTML/CSS/PHP/C/Pascal/Fortran/Java/javascript/Lasso/Make/Markdown/Perl/Python/etc./etc....there must be nearly 100 choices. And you can display many of them in BBEdit itself. But it is not a WYSIWYG editor. And, while it has many tools to help create all the parts needed for any of the languages, you will never (in my opinion) have time to learn them all! I really think you'd be happier with TextWrangler (or its current iteration). But that decision seems to have already been made by your recent purchase of BBEdit. I hope you get more out of it than my impulsive purchase of Aperture because it was so cheap at the Store!! laughhard.gif blush-anim-cl.gif
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 01:16:39 PM »
I do have Text Wrangler, but thought it might be good to grab BBEdit while it was only 50 bucks in the app store.
I dont do well at all with the WYSIWYG editors, Dreamweaver is not my forte. Though I have used it to make some photo albums. It takes me forever to do one little page. So I always go back to hand coding everything.

What I try to do, is take one of my favourite pages, of which I have about 15, and use the code as a template, and adding in all new background and other images and moving the CSS around to do what I want.

Its so much fun! I never though I would like to do that, as I am not crazy about math, but its so much fun to start with nothing but a batch of iPhoto pictures, and make a pretty page out of it. The CSS is still a bit difficult, but I try to change it on the fly and keep reloading the page Im working on, and watch it change.  I really can learn that way. I know that DW does the same thing with its split screen, change the code and watch the page change.
Just seems so easy with TextEdit for me.
Im working on a new page with some of the Dynamic Drive stuff, makes fun albums.
Jane
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