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« on: March 07, 2013, 07:38:42 PM »
Pogue's column

Does anyone know if this device will/can work harmoniously with an Apple Extreme. since a couple of years of experience using one with 2 Expresses is problematical at the worst or spotty (or viscous) at best.

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 08:50:55 PM »
I used Airport Expresses to extend my wireless network 100' to the brick house next door. Oh, and David Pogue has never steered me wrong yet.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 12:11:29 AM »
I'm like most people (guessing here!) that placement of my Extreme is dictated by where the cable enters our residential space. For an est 8-10 years (w/2 generations of Extremes + 2 Expresses placed throughout the house) I have tried to achieve a really workable network - essentially from one corner to the opposite, in a 3000 sq ft ranch plan. All I've ever gotten is ok when 've been hoping for WOW!.

I need some kind of repeater on steroids, apparently.

Relatedly, when I had an MB-Pro set-up in the distant corner of the house (from the Extreme) I could "see" the Westin Hotel's network, approximately 4000 yards distant on the shore of SF Bay, while I only get 1-3 bars from one corner of the house to the opposite.

Thus my query about Pogue's column today.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2013, 01:52:33 AM by Highmac »

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Pogue (today) on extending a WiFi network
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 08:30:20 AM »
And you had nothing but air between you and the hotel, right? Plus, their system may have had a much better antenna system. Your house, no doubt, has numerous walls with many metallic items, from wiring to heat/AC duct work. Not to mention a few items using the exact frequencies of the Extreme/Expresses. And the design of those Apple products have a noticeable lack of such ugly things as external antennae. There are reasons why most radio frequency products have those things, even if it's just using the cord on a set of ear phones as the antenna. The Extreme/Express/mini/MBP/even your iMac have the antennae well hidden and usually BEHIND some metal. DOH! The signal strength is limited by Federal regulation, it can be increased, but not legally (you may remember the interference caused by the poorly controlled CB radio fad?). I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the hotel is operating outside the limits of the law. smile.gif

Obviously, environmental conditions in one house/office/hotel can be much different in another location. There are also several channels (frequencies) available on most of these transmitters to help prevent your neighbors from interfering with your hardware.

As I recall, your problem was improved (solved?) by removing an Express, not adding one... I discussed the theory of how and where to locate 'repeaters' in the thread you had back then. There are also, I think, some links to the details by people who know way more than I do (not a small number, BTW!).

The product Pogue used is not expensive. Buy one and see if it helps, when used and set up as the instructions say. If it helps, you've made a good investment. If it doesn't, you've just proved, again,  that we should not rely on anecdotal evidence too much. laughhard.gif
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 11:18:00 AM »
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As I recall, your problem was improved (solved?) by removing an Express, not adding one... I discussed the theory of how and where to locate 'repeaters' in the thread you had back then. There are also, I think, some links to the details by people who know way more than I do (not a small number, BTW!).


Yup. It was the Consultant I encountered who pointed out that surprising "fact". It has been working, as I said, "OK" (and far better than previously) but recently  abandoning my iPad (and it's KB unsuited to my arthritically-challenged hands) for a new Air has emphasized that I might enjoy the Apple network even more with a "new" repeater.

We shall see.

I guess.

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2013, 05:43:55 PM »
Dick, according to this article Apple will be moving into 802.11 AC WiFi this year.
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/802.11ac
I pretty much live in WiFi, I've had a Netgear 6300 AC router for a while and although there a few AC products out there that can use the full breadth of this technology, what it delivers to 802.11 N phones/laptops/tablets is far better in speed and range.

My ISP delivers 60 Mbps service to the modem, and the modem pushes a GiG to my router. The N draft wifi in my MBPro and phones is limited to about 300 Mbps and receives nearly that amount of data without obstructions. 2x faster than my dual band 2.4-5MHZ router. My ISP also has thousands of Hot Spots around here, that is included with the 60 Mbps service.

If Apple moves to 802.11 AC and you have an iphone or ipad or laptop with dual-band capability you could experience near GIG wifi. With dual-band hardware, which I believe they are adding to the new iPad II...AC firmware will most likely be coming soon.