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Offline Highmac

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On the subject of maintenance utilities...
« on: July 22, 2003, 02:27:33 AM »
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Unlike some other drive repair utilities, DiskWarrior doesn't seek to patch up errors on a hard drive. Repairing a drive by patching the problems can easily lead to more problems being introduced and ending up doing even more damage. Quite a few people have had some experience running a drive repair utility only to find that it gives up halfway through the process having trashed their drive as it tried to effect repairs. Some utilities can effectively end up tying themselves in knots as they attempt to repair a hard drive.

Now, the laws of libel being what they are, these other utilities are not named. However, I've always used Norton and now worry it could be one of them (I'm running OS9.1 and the Norton is what came with the iMac) - or is this writer overstating the case?

As mentioned before, I'm no techie, so comments from those with deeper knowledge of the subject would be welcomed. Should I stick with Norton? Just because I haven't had problems so far.....
« Last Edit: July 22, 2003, 02:31:57 AM by Highmac »
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On the subject of maintenance utilities...
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2003, 02:39:06 AM »
Check out Gary S thread Highmac.

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2003, 08:18:04 AM »
Which OS Highmac? smile.gif

For 9.x I think Norton is fine. Just have a new enough Version to work well.

For OS X I'm not so sure Norton has that down yet. smile.gif
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2003, 12:35:59 PM »
My experience with Nortons goes back to the days of OS 8.6. I ran it twice in one sessions and the second time it ate the HD. Western Digital replaced the HD under there 3 yr warranty, but all of my data was kaput. Neadless to say I trashed Nortons disk and went to DW and TT Pro.  Since OS 10, I have used Drive ten, Mac Janitor and startups to keep it clean. I have not delved back into DW or TT Pro due to 10.3 being on the horizon and past history shows that anytime apple updated the OS, the utilities fell behind. When my Silver is at its last and pemanent upgrade I will acquire the appropriate utilities.
Just my experience.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2003, 03:12:41 PM »
HighMac:

When I was using OS 9.x, I thought highly of Norton Utilities.  I used it religiously and it never failed me.  Gosh, that seems like such a long time ago!  Now, I have lived through all the itterations of OS X, and I assure you that Norton will screw you under OS X.  So if you're going to stay with OS 9.x, Norton works just fine, but don't use it on an OS X partition or drive until they learn UNIX at Symantec.

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2003, 04:30:48 PM »
Thanks all - as I said, I'm still on 9.1, but for how long only time will tell. It still runs all the things I want and I'm a bit of an "if it ain't broke..." sort of guy biggrin.gif  Certainly, I'm more tempted now X seems to be drawing fewer moans from its users. Perhaps Santa will bring it at Christmas (only just over five months away now!)
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2003, 09:33:44 PM »
I'm using Norton System Works 2.0 on a G4 dual 1G, running 10.2.6 with no problems whatsoever.

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2003, 03:22:50 PM »
" . . . using Norton System Works 2.0 on a G4 dual 1G, running 10.2."

Time  to switch to SystemWorks3.0      but be  aware  that Disk warrior is a BETTER  application   and that Optomizing under  OS  X  is a thoroughgoing waste of time.

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2003, 04:40:21 PM »
Highmac,


I have been successfully running Norton since MacOS 7.1.  Yes, various manifestations of Norton can eat your hard disk (version 3.0 was particularly notorious). Early versions of any Norton are suspect - always wait until the early adopters have fried their hard drives and Norton gets updated a few times before you use the final updated version of that particular Norton series.   Later versions in a Norton series tend to be pretty solid.

Please note that it is much more important to have a good data backup strategy than it is to have a good disk utility strategy.

That said, a good disk utility strategy might go something like this:

(1)  Backup first.  Really.

(2) Run Disk Warrior prior to any other disk utilities.  Then run other disk utilities to your heart's content - TechTool Pro is good.

(3) Run Norton 6.03 (Norton 6.03 Update available here) on your machine, if you like.

And you should be fine.


Season the above with rebuilding your desktop, zapping the PRAM, discarding certain preferences that tend to get corrupted, and running an antiviral routine and you should be even finer.

I just do the above every month or so when the new anti-viral definitions come out.  Keeps the machines ship shape and Bristol fashion.


Oh - don't forget to back-up.  ;-)


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