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OT. Some facts about the 1500s in England ...
« on: October 31, 2003, 11:44:50 PM »
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
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Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children-last of all the babies. By then water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."
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Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
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There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.
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The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying "dirt poor."
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The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance way. Hence the saying a "thresh hold."
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In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."
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Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."
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Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
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Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or upper crust."
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Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake."
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England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer."

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OT. Some facts about the 1500s in England ...
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2003, 04:59:30 AM »
I love this stuff...Very interesting...thanks. clap.gif

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OT. Some facts about the 1500s in England ...
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2003, 11:47:32 AM »
We have to be careful of the things we post. Fun as the "legends" of Ole England sound, any truth in it is doubtful.

When it comes to posting urban legends, I'm no exception. Remember the hurricane picture that turned out to be fake?  rolleyes.gif

Here's an interesting web site that "claims" to have the answers to Word Origins.

It's all fun. I love to read the folklore and the history of our language.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2003, 07:42:16 PM »
Thanks JB,

My son is studying the Middle Ages in 8th grade. I'll have to make a copy for him to take to school. The kids will get a kick out of it.... I did. smile.gif
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2003, 09:20:35 PM »
Interesting stuff. smile.gif
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2003, 10:55:45 PM »
Here's more interesting stuff related to the English folklore.

Urban Legends Reference Pages - Life in the 1500's
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2003, 05:04:10 PM »
An interesting read. Incidentally, the dirt floor reference tends to support a theory of mine about why in this country our first floor is what Americans call the second floor.  

We step off the street to the "ground" floor (at ground level). If there was only dirt downstairs then the "first"floor was one flight up.  No evidence to support that, just my own thought...
(but it doesn't half confuse tourists in lifts - elevators - "What does the G stand for?" Or they go to floor 1 and wonder why they can't find a door on to the street.)

Re: "Bringing home the bacon"... it's still going on!
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2003, 05:55:20 PM »
HM,

It sounds like it would make a good weekly nonreality-reality TV show.
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