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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2003, 07:32:27 PM »
With GetInfo, all we have is General info, Sharing, and Memory.
No options to choose what we would like to have it open with.
Will keep trying, as this is incredible frustrating,,,,
Listing with RealPlayer now.  
Thanks again, Jane

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2003, 02:43:37 PM »
I guess that the missing Blues is not my fault here, we spent some of the morning at our local Apple store on a G5 trying to find iTunes Blues.  Nothing.

I have tried all ways to get the stations into iTunes, and it wont work for me, (os 9.2.2)

Also heard that Apple was having a slight problem with their iTunes.
Nobody knows for sure, but I did e-mail Apple, and have had no response.  I would assume that no response, means that there is trouble there.  Otherwise wouldn't they respond with some advice?
It will be interesting if they can fix it, as I think that iTunes is a really nice thing, and it would be in Apples best interest to have it working well.
Jane

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2003, 04:04:29 PM »
Jane,

I just now opened iTunes v4.1 on my computer running OS 10.3 (Panther).

I saw Blues in the Radio list. So I clicked on it.


 ohmy.gif It disappeared! huh.gif

That's strange...

I get the feeling that Blues was just absorbed into the main list. I went through all the toggles and updated the list of stations. There's a lot of music available, but it looks like you just have to keep checking until you find something you like... and then put that one into a favorite catagory.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2003, 06:38:43 PM »
Poof, it goes away!  I saw it go, you saw it go,,,,,,,,,
iTunes is under a strange spell, Blues go away,,,,,,,
This is sooooo interesting, it will be fun to see what the real problem is, it might take a while, but a lot of people are looking at this.

My ISP has great music on their TV end of things, and when I talked with their tech support this afternoon, they were very interested in having this streaming music that is available on the TV part, on their website, and available to the computer people.
They are working on this and I was lucky and just happened to talk with someone who must have some insight into this and some good info.
That would be really nice, as they have the same streaming music, non-commercial endless good stuff in whatever genre you dial up.
It is on their future menu,,,,,,
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2003, 10:12:14 AM »
A friend figured out how to fix it!
Here are his instructions,,,,

 Hey, Jane, I just went to that URL you listed and clicked on the station you recommended. Safari downloaded a
 *.pls file. I opened it in a text editor, found the URL for the station (http://205.188.234.38:8014) entered that
 in Advanced-->Open Stream and it started playing.

 Then I selected File-->Show Current Song, and dragged it into my playlist of favorite radio stations. Now I can
 open and close iTunes and that station still shows up every time. I'm on iTunes 4.1 on Panther (10.3) if that
 makes a difference.

 Cool station, by the way! It's playing now.

Wonderful!
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2003, 01:44:34 PM »
Thank you June!!  I'm listening right now!
« Last Edit: November 05, 2003, 01:45:16 PM by jepinto »
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2003, 03:50:30 PM »
That is indeed the best Blues station I have ever encountered.
You can see why I was heartbroken when it vanished, and how happy I am, now that we got it back.

Edit, I need to know how to get the numeric version of a URL, if I decide to add more stations.  I can't seem to make it work.
I don't have Safari.
  Any ideas how to get the numeric URL from a regular one?  Would be kind of a neat thing to know how to do anyway.  

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« Last Edit: November 05, 2003, 04:21:06 PM by jcarter »

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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2003, 05:28:53 PM »
QUOTE(jcarter @ Oct 31 2003, 6:48 PM)
I used to listen to the iTunes a lot, but recently I have noticed that my list of available stations are far fewer than before.
Is it possible this is being phased out?

 In a manner of speaking, yes.

To understand what is happening, you must first understand the Recording Industry Association of America, or RIAA.

The RIAA represents all the major labels. Its primary interest is control.

Many people do not know this, but to a large extent, the RIAA tries to control what artists become hits, and what artists do not. The RIAA tells radio stations what music to play--most radio stations do not create their own playlists. The RIAA controls advertising and promotion for bands.

The RIAA opposes both peer-to-peer file trading and Internet radio. It does this not because they lose money by doing it, though the RIAA will claim that this is the case; rather, it's about control.

Why do record labels exist?

That's a deceptively simple question, and it's worth repeating.

Why do record labels exist?

Let's say I have a band. I want to cut an album. If I sign a standard recording contract, I will probably never see so much as a dime from record sales. (Contrary to popular belief, most bands never profit from album sales, unless the album is a huge hit. 100% of the album sales go to the label.)

I only see money from concert tours and ancillary sales (T-shirts and the like).

So why on Earth would I sign with a label? Why do record labels exist?

Record labels exist because in the days of vinyl records, it cost right around $100,000 to cut the master for an album and set up production--not including studio time, engineering, and other production costs.

Most artists could never afford it. Most artists, unless they were already wealthy, could never hope to shell out the $100 grand it'd cost to produce a record, much less the cost to warehouse it, distribute it, and so on. They NEEDED to have a record label. Only the label could afford the up-front cost of releasing an album.

Enter the age of the compact disc. It costs about $1,000 to master and produce a CD, complete with cover art, jewel box, and the whole kit. CD production costs about 37 cents apiece in quantity. These costs are easily within the grasp of most people; you do not need the financial capital of a record label in order to produce your own album.

But nobody will BUY the album if they don't know about the album.

So you are still stuck. You have to sign with a record label, because the record labels control what gets distributed in stores and what gets played on the radio.

Enter the Internet. With MP3s and internet radio, now you can make your own CD, AND you can market it, and reach a huge audience...in fact, it is possible for an average person, with no financial clout behind him and only average resources, to record an album, master the album, promote the album, and get it out to listeners--without the record labels![/i]

THAT is what it's about. That is what terrifies the labels.

The labels, in a world of Internet radio and MP3 downloads, are no longer necessary. No more yachts. No more private jets. No more $500,000 houses for their mistresses.

So the record labels fought back. They have been hard at work shutting down internet radio stations, by getting Congress to pass a law requiring that Internet radio stations pay a "royalty fee' to the RIAA, or stop broadcasting. While this fee is only a few thousand dollars, most internet radio stations are run out of a closet by someone not making one cent from them, so the cost is absolutely prohibitive. When faced with a choice--Pay us a few thousand dollars, or shut down--mant small Internet radio stations shut down.

The ones left are more easily controlled. They are larger, and some of them are for-profit. Because of that, the RIAA can go to them and say "We will waive your royalty fees, if you agree to play the songs we tell you to play."

It's about control. Nothing more, nothing less. Ultimately, the goal of the RIAA is to make sure that you never, ever listen to a single song unless they approved it and picked it first.
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2003, 06:45:38 PM »
Oh, Another corrupt industry!

Is this what they used to call "Payola" or a word like this, when local stations were paid to play obscure (and awful) music years ago?

So this must be how some of the incredible awful music gets pumped out to the public, MONEY.  Our local high school kids are far, far better than what you hear on commercial radio nowadays.
 
I am glad that you have explained this to me, as I had no clue how the music industry works.
The RIAA has to be taken out, they should never have such control when the artists themselves aren't getting paid.  Maybe I should contribute to my favourite internet station!  I would if asked.  I do give to our PBS stations.

I only know amateur musicians, locals who have done well, but that is not their sole income.

Your information is an eye opener to me.  I guess I knew that the music business was corrupt, but never knew it was so bad.

I refuse to watch professional sports, because it is all about money, they disgust me and 95% of them are sending the wrong message to our young athletes.  Let their yachts sink and their planes crash and their mistresses,,,well, you know.

I will continue to listen to the Blues on internet radio, and will support them.  
Thank you for this information, as it has made me aware of another side of this industry.
Shawn Fanning comes from a town about 30 miles from us, great kid!
Jane