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« on: April 07, 2003, 11:36:00 PM »
Husband's computer - G3 upped to 500 mhz. with a Newer Tech card ( was 266).  Running 9.2.2 with about 256 ram.  Three internal drives - IBM 40 gig, Quantum 4 gig and Seagate 4 gig.  IBM is the main drive.  Seagate drive is the one which won't mount.  It can be seen by HDT on a device view, but not volume view - says it is not ready.  It disappeared when the circuit the computer is on blew - but there is a very good surge protector on the equipment. I have zapped pram, rebuilt desktop, run Norton and Techtool.  This drive has a lot of updates and info on it which I need!!  Can anyone advise?
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2003, 11:58:00 PM »
What are they? A mix of IDE and SCSI?  

What is the problem Drive?

Might be kaput.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2003, 12:18:00 AM »
All SCSI.  Problem drive and main HD (IBM) are on SCSI 0 - 1 and 7, I believe.  I'm not on that computer right now, but I'm fairly sure those are the numbers.  The third drive is on another number.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2003, 04:45:00 PM »
What does Drive Setup report?

Does it show up at all, even as an unmounted volume?

If so, can you click on volume name ("not mounted", or whatever it shows up as) and go to Functions > Mount Volumes?

Do you have Disk Warrior?

If so, you might want to run it on the drive.

At least to see if it will go out and find the data and write a new directory for you so that you can retrieve the data.

Also, you said the circuit blew that the 'puter was on. Did you hear any popping at all? Anything sound out of the ordinary?

Just a few thoughts.

Hope that helps.

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2003, 05:03:00 PM »
The drive does not show up on drive setup, or anywhere else for that matter, except on SCSI Probe as a device, and on HDT as a device.  If I try to perform any actions on it, I get messages that the drive is not ready, or has to be started, or an error message (on SCSI Probe).  I guess it has just DIED.  No, no sound when the computer was shut down by a circuit breaker tripping - no pop, no nothin'!  We used to periodically lose that drive on OS 9.01 and after several restarts it would appear - I guess it had something to do with the rpm.  Since upgrading to 9.2.2 it had never happened.  i can't say for sure that it was the loss of power - nothing else on the computer was affected.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2003, 09:14:00 AM »
dakota -

I know that this is going to perhaps sound crazy, but it might be worth a shot.

Control Panels > File Exchange > PC Exchange tab.

At the bottom, you can tell it to mount PC SCSI disks.

Worth a try?

Not sure that it will do anything, but just hopeful that you might be able to do something with it.

Have you tried to download a demo of Disk Warrior by chance?

Wish I could be of more help.    

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2003, 12:26:00 AM »
Nope, doesn't work, and I have Disk Warrior - it doesn't see the drive either.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2003, 10:59:00 AM »
dakota. I've never used this. But there's a free Demo.  

http://www.prosoftengineering.com/products...data_rescue.php

Worth a look.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2003, 05:36:00 PM »
Tried the demo - couldn't figure out a way to get it to see a disk which nothing else sees, despite the fact that it claims to be able to do so.  Read every page of the manual! All it sees are my other two drives.  Thanks for the effort, though!
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2003, 07:51:00 PM »
"The drive does not show up on drive setup, or anywhere else for that matter, except on SCSI Probe as a device, and on HDT as a device. If I try to perform any actions on it, I get messages that the drive is not ready, or has to be started, or an error message (on SCSI Probe)."

That drive is dead. Deceased. Kaput. It has gone to meet its maker. Sorry.

What you describe indicates a mechanical fault; the platters are not spinning, or the heads can't be positioned. This sort of problem is terminal. If you really, really need to get the data back, and you're willing to spend a significant amount of money to do it, you can send the drive to Drive Savers--though there is no guarantee that it can be salvaged, even by them.

A program--any program--can't salvage the drive, because it is physically incapable of retreiving data.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2003, 08:12:00 PM »
Nothing on it really worth saving - not sure even the computer is worth much. May just give him my G4 and buy a new one.  Any new G4s which have OS9 as well as X????
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2003, 09:41:00 PM »
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Originally posted by dakota:
not sure even the computer is worth much. May just give him my G4 and buy a new one.

If you mean that literally, I'll be MORE than happy to take the old one off your hands for the cost of packing and shipping!

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2003, 10:47:00 PM »
That's extremely generous of you.  I'll keep it in mind.
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2003, 10:55:00 PM »
Dakota, unless you're planning on using this little episode as the stepping stone to a new machine for yourself      (we won't tell!), you can get a new drive for, ahem, a lot less than a new G4. On the other hand - is the loss of that drive all that important, since it is only 4 GB and you have a 40 GB in there anyway? Adding more RAM would probably help a bit - we have a beige box with a 500MHz Sonnet card and some 576MB of RAM and it's pretty spritely. It would probably be even better if I got it a new video card. There's lots of life in there yet!

There are some G4's out there that still boot OS9 - try places like Small Dog - but they are getting scarcer.

On the other hand...you could use it as an excuse to dive wholeheartedly into X. I've been there for over a year now - but it does require a bit of an investment in software upgrades. I never boot into 9 at all any more.    

Kbear...just how many of those darn G3's are you planning on collecting????  
 
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2003, 11:24:00 PM »
There's a method to my madness.  The G3, actually, has a 500 mhz newer Tech card, lots of memory, and there WERE 3 drives.  BUT, no firewire or usb, which makes it tough to swap from computer to computer, except with a zip, and obviously we're not using the digital cameras on it, either. The only thing which is stopping me is the chills which go up my spine as I look at the still sealed Jaguar box sitting on my shelf.  The last time I booted up from OSX, my whole computer crashed, and I mean CRASHED. Had to initialize, do a clean install and start all over again - and I have three drives in this baby also - two internal and one firewire.  I have to play with X a little and if I manage to cope, then I will go for a ew machine.  I gave my granddaughter our old G3 233, and she's only 3 - pretty soon she'll be ready for a more advanced one than I have!!!
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