I guess Mozilla was not the problem

[Gregg]

Details:
Using OS9.2.2 Mozilla 1.3.1

My first test was Mapquest, the original site I had problems with. Still do. It does everything except show the map, same as before.

What I did....

Recorded all preferences within Mozilla prefs dialog

Copied to another volume:
Mozilla (wamcom) iCab and Netscape 7.02 folders
Mozilla folder from Documents folder (contains profile used by all of the above)
Mozilla, iCab and Netscape preferences

Moved all the original items from the boot volume to the trash

Expanded wamcom .sit file which created a new wamcom folder, not an installer

Opened Mozilla, reset all preferences

Tested Mapquest, then came here


What I have to do next:
Restore bookmarks from the old copy
Restore address book for pop3 e-mail (even though we don't use it anymore)

This was a waste of my time, energy and angst - except that I have eliminated Mozilla as the cause of the dysfunctional behavior.

My next step? Probably a clean install. I refuse to do that right now.

[kbeartx]

QUOTE(Gregg @ May 28 2006, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My first test was Mapquest, the original site I had problems with. Still do.

Somebunny else was 'complaining' that MapQuest made the fans race in her G5 iMac...

Maybe it's problematic coding at MapQuest?

Time to try Google Maps, p'raps?

[D76]

This is a picture of my WaMCom plugins, some of which came from SeaMonkey, the System X version of the Mozilla suite. They might be more up to date than yours.

You could check these against yours to see if you need any or want to try this bunch. I could email them to you. Ignore the zip file and the Shockwave Off folder — I use an AppleScript to turn Flash/Schlockwave off and on, and the Shockwave Off folder is where they hide when they're turned off.

These are in the Internet Plug-ins folder in the System folder. I yanked all the plugins from the Plug-ins folder in the Mozilla Profile folder inside the Documents folder and killed the duplicates to avoid conflicts, and stuck them all in the one folder.

It might help if you trash the Application Registry file and pluginreg.dat file from the Mozilla folder in the Documents folder; they've screwed the thing up more than once.

[MamaMoose]

You might btry this. Go to Moxilla>Preferences>Content.Make sure Enable Java and Enable Javascript boxes are checked. Sometimes FF has trouble with Java. Also, make sure you have the right version of Java installed. Unfortunately, I do not what is right for your system.

It also may be that Mozilla and OS 9.2.2 are incompatible. This is a likely cazuse of the problem as the OS is pretty old in computer years.

MamaMoose

[dboh]

QUOTE(MamaMoose @ May 29 2006, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It also may be that Mozilla and OS 9.2.2 are incompatible.

MamaMoose

I've never had a problem with compatibility of Mozilla 1.3.1 and OS 9.2.2. More likely, the problem is with an older version of Mozilla and specific sites. Many aren't interested in supporting older browsers.

It may be time to upgrade to X.

[D76]

I'm having no problem with Mapquest, Wamcom's Mozilla 1.3.1 and  9.2.2.  I punched in a city location, then another on the other  side of the continent, and the map scans all directions and zooms in  and out.
 
  One other problem could be with the Internet control panel, under  Advanced, then Helper Apps and/or File Mapping. This could affect all  the browsers.

[Gregg]

QUOTE(D76 @ May 28 2006, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This is a picture of my WaMCom plugins, some of which came from SeaMonkey, the System X version of the Mozilla suite. They might be more up to date than yours.

You could check these against yours to see if you need any or want to try this bunch.

Thanks. I have copied your post, and opened the link in a new window to look at when I'm done here. I'm sure I won't find that many plug-ins on mine. Gotta look at the other posts now too...

QUOTE(MamaMoose @ May 29 2006, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You might btry this. Go to Moxilla>Preferences>Content.Make sure Enable Java and Enable Javascript boxes are checked. Sometimes FF has trouble with Java. Also, make sure you have the right version of Java installed. Unfortunately, I do not what is right for your system.

It also may be that Mozilla and OS 9.2.2 are incompatible. This is a likely cazuse of the problem as the OS is pretty old in computer years.

MamaMoose

I do find that Enable Java is checked under the Advanced tab. I do not readily see Javascript. I believe I have investigated this before. Here are some curious settings - that is, I'm curious about whether I should change them:

Privacy & Security
>Cookies   Enable all cookies? / Disable cookies in Mail & Newsgroups
>Images     Accept from originating server only? / loop: As many times as the image specifies

I have all of my Mozilla pref settings recorded in a SimpleText document. It's quite voluminous. If anyone really wants to read through it all, I can paste it into a post here.

QUOTE(D76 @ May 29 2006, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm having no problem with Mapquest, Wamcom's Mozilla 1.3.1 and  9.2.2.  I punched in a city location, then another on the other  side of the continent, and the map scans all directions and zooms in  and out.
 
One other problem could be with the Internet control panel, under  Advanced, then Helper Apps and/or File Mapping. This could affect all  the browsers.

I also had no problem with Mapquest using the same versions once upon a time. So, I don't think it's an incompatiblity issue, kbear.

What would I be looking for in the Internet Control Panel "Helper Apps" or "File Mapping"? What are the "correct" settings?

[D76]

Two screen shots of some of my settings in Helper Apps. No 1 is here and No. 2 is here.

If you click on the pix, they should enlarge. I was still figuring out how ImageShack works, so they may not.

Each pic is numbered, and the pix are clockwise in order. I was going to do the same thing for File Mapping, but that's more complicated. I'll write a description of those rather than take screen shots.

Pic No. 1 in the first screen shot is how the control panel appears in the overview. No. 2 in the first screen shot is how one of the same files is written up when the overview Mozilla is clicked on, and so on.

If you find you need to change an application in the control panel, click on the Select button. To make a new one, click on any of the apps, then click on Add, shown at the bottom of the Overview pic.

For what it's worth, I had to switch back to OS X to post this. The posting blank is very buggy in OS 9's Mozilla. It works for straight posts if the page is reloaded once or twice, but JavaScript wouldn't work for the links or editing.

[D76]

I just saw three browser files in my Preferences folder in the System folder you should kill: Mozilla Registry, Mozilla Versions and Netscape Registry.

[Gregg]

Did that too. But, looks like I might have missed Mozilla Registry, although it says it's zero k. A new Mozilla Versions has not been created.

[D76]

Gregg, I sent you a PM on OS 9 files, probably twice, but I'm wondering whether it made it. The message form is really flakey in OS 9.

[Gregg]

I got it, but haven't deciphered it as yet. As far as plug-ins, this is what I have:

System Folder:
flashplayer.xpt
nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt
PDFViewer
QuickTime Plugin
QuickTimePlugin.class

Mozilla Folder:
Default Plug-in
Default Plug-in Data
MRJPlugin
MRJPlugin.jar
Shockwave Flash NP-PPC

...all of which are in your screen shot. Do I need the others? Things used to work fine, and I had not sought out any plug-ins. AFAIK, I had/have whatever is installed with Mozilla and/or OS9.

This got lost along the way:

Here are some curious Mozilla preference settings - that is, I'm curious about whether I should change them:

Privacy & Security
>Cookies Enable all cookies? / Disable cookies in Mail & Newsgroups
>Images Accept from originating server only? / loop: As many times as the image specifies

I have all of my Mozilla pref settings recorded in a SimpleText document. It's quite voluminous. If anyone really wants to read through it all, I can paste it into a post here.

[Gregg]

QUOTE(dboh @ May 29 2006, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I've never had a problem with compatibility of Mozilla 1.3.1 and OS 9.2.2. More likely, the problem is with an older version of Mozilla and specific sites. Many aren't interested in supporting older browsers.

It may be time to upgrade to X.

Didn't intend to ignore your contribution...
I thought the same thing until others here reported no problems with the same setup, such as the post following yours, among others in previous threads.

[D76]

My Flashplayer.xpt plugin has no version number, but Get Info says it was created and modified on Dec. 8, 2003.

nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt is Version 6.0.2.

The PDF viewer is 5.0.5.

QuickTime Plugin: 6.0.2

Default Plug-in: No version but created on June 30, 2003.

Default Plug-in Data's info is useless. It says it was created May 25, 2006. Maybe it re-creates itself.

MRJPlugin is Version 1.0b5.

MRJPlugin.jar was created June 30, 2003.

Shockwave Flash NP-PPC is 7.0 r63

I have the shockwave plugin NP-PPC-Dir-Shockwave., Version  8.5.1r02. You don't seem to have that one.

You have enough plugins for the browser to work properly in most cases. If any of yours have higher versions or if the dates on them suggest they're  newer than mine, let me know so I can track them down.

QUOTE

>Cookies Enable all cookies? / Disable cookies in Mail & Newsgroups>Images Accept from originating server only? / loop: As many times as the image specifies

Whether cookies are on or not shouldn't prevent pictures from loading. I disable cookies in Mail and Newsgroups. I don't use newsgroups, and spammers can use email cookies to find out whether your email address is legit.

 I disable website cookies when I'm not on sites that require them, to prevent cross-site persistent cookies planted by ad farms and Google, etc. from tracking me across the net.

If Images: Accept from originating server only is enabled, it might be part of your problem. Many times, pictures aren't on a site's server but on another computer. Many ads, among other things, come from other sources, which might include MapQuest's map,

The  looping-of-images setting doesn't matter as to the running of the browser. This setting can turn off or allow only one cycle by such things as animated smilies and some blinking ads.

[Gregg]

I hope it is that one setting!

I can't wait to get home and try it....