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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2006, 10:45:45 AM »
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You can add Otis Redding, Patsy Cline, Ritchie Valens, Big Bopper, Audie Murphy, Aaliyah, John Walton (WalMart), and of course, Amelia Earheart and Will Rogers to the list of small plane casualties taking well know personalities.

John Denver, Payne Stewart, JFK JR, Thurm Munson, Jim Croce, Glen Miller, and "the day the music died": Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper (J.P. Richardson), and Ritchie Valens.

Plus more ... I think there have been several in the Kennedy family who have died in small plane crashes.

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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2006, 01:39:01 PM »
The similarity to 9/11 must have been hair-raising for those NY'ers who witnessed the crash.  How fortunate that it was not a terrorist attack, caused "minimal" damage (2 condominium residences, I think), and amazingly, NO injuries to anyone.

But it is easy to see how un-secure we really are.  Pack that light plane with explosives--or a "dirty" (radioactive) bomb--and Mr. Bin Laden will have outdone himself.

The Mayor of Chicago, Richard Daley, was lambasted for destroying, in the middle of the night, Meigs Field.  The business community has sued over it, b/c even though he claimed it was for "security reasons," he had been talking about closing that airport for years and planned to use the land for a park.

I don't know what all this means.  It is tragic about Cory Lidle. I'm not sure they have even figured out whether he was steering the plane, or his (26-year-old) flight instructor.  The insurance companies are anxious to know, since they have to pay off in one case, not in the other.

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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2006, 02:17:18 PM »
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The similarity to 9/11 must have been hair-raising for those NY'ers who witnessed the crash.

A friend of mine is alive because she was hungry and stopped for breakfast -- otherwise she would have been in one of the towers on 9/11. As it was she was just a block or so away and saw it happen. When this accident took place she watched it out her office window. She's having nightmares again. sad.gif

I've flown in small planes during the day and the evening. The day time was okay. The night time was hairy as the tower gave the pilot the wrong runway. Fortunately it was caught in time by the tower. We never saw the other small plane, and they never saw us. Of course, I forgot it all when we were airborn and I saw the sights all twinkly in the lights. The pilot didn't forget and when returning, he verified twice what runway to land on. wink.gif

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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2006, 07:35:51 PM »
In 1948 a friend of mine flew his Piper Cub too far into a canyon in Colorado, The Cub had no altitude left to climb out, and he couldn't turn around. Fortunately, the Cub has a very low stall speed, so he stalled it out and then had the privilege of climbing down out of a pine tree he had not climbed up. Similar dynamics may have been at work in the recent case. Bottom line -- "pilot error."
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2006, 07:54:24 PM »
One of my son-in-laws had an equipment failure on his little single engine plane a long time ago, and he was lucky to land on the ocean and was able to grab his passenger,  and they both got out before the poor plane sunk.
They hung on to a nav. bouy not too far off the harbor, and a small boat picked them up, twas summer and the water was warm.
He has never flown since.
But there are far far more people killed in car accidents than planes, so keep on flying!
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And we have a family friend who had his engine conk out, and he was in Ohio, and landed in a corn field.  Unscathed, and the plane was hauled out and was just fine.
So keep on flying!

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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2006, 11:27:33 PM »
Been in a small plane only twice.

Felt pretty secure each time but worried about the pilot since he was the only one without a parachute.    


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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2006, 07:34:51 AM »
First time we flew to a southern dirt airstrip in Belize, my husband looked down and said, "Look at that!" I saw a yellow single engine plane wrecked right in the jungle at the side of the airstrip.  I asked the pilot and he just laughed.  Our plane was Maya Air, and they have a perfect record.  There were 4 of us flying in this little plane, and a huge load of canned goods. I even had a box of canned stuff on my lap.
Those days were long ago and lots of fun.
Jane

No parachutes in those little planes at all, if your little engine quits, you plop down in the jungle canopy, or land on the beach. I think there has only been one fatal plane crash in Belize, a tourist plane went down off one of the northern keys.  I think there were about 10 people aboard.  I heard about it on the news.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2006, 07:49:55 AM »
Wow! A parachute kris?

I took a sightseeing ride in a small plane over Milwaukee once, and nobody had a parachute!
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2006, 02:47:56 PM »
Perhaps you meant to say "Only the pilot had a parachute." In that case I would be very nervous! eek2.gif
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2006, 09:52:57 PM »
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"Black boxes" don't tell you what might happen in the future, only what did happen in the immediate past

However by figuring out what happened in the past, you can use it to improve the future.


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He has never flown since.
But there are far far more people killed in car accidents than planes, so keep on flying!

Commercial aviation, despite the terrorist attacks, is still extremely safe!
It really is much safer than driving

especially flying on airlines like Southwest or jetBlue, which aren't targets
and probably will never be

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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2006, 02:57:36 AM »
QUOTE(krissel @ Oct 19 2006, 05:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Been in a small plane only twice.

Felt pretty secure each time but worried about the pilot since he was the only one without a parachute.    
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2006, 03:35:20 AM »
QUOTE(airbusdriver @ Oct 19 2006, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps you meant to say "Only the pilot had a parachute." In that case I would be very nervous! eek2.gif




No, no. I phrased it properly.


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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2006, 10:59:36 AM »
A zillion years ago I decided to learn to fly, and took a course that involved ground school and flights in Cessna 150s. Every flight cost a week's salary — I was making $55 a week.

I found out soon enough that flying was not for me. I could slip the surely bonds of Earth and dance the skies on laughter-silvered wings — if the carburettor didn't freeze —  but I'd kiss the ground every time I returned to it. I could never have been any more than a hack — safe, probably,  but never doing more than a workmanlike job. I stuck it out until I soloed, then walked away.

ABD probably has seen too many of that kind of pilot who stayed with it. But I've never regretted learning to fly, because I had always wanted to, and if I never had, I would still be wondering.

I had no instinctive feel of an aircraft, and I knew I never would because even then I could compare it to my abilities driving a car, which, corny as it sounds, does become an extension of myself — any car does, though I prefer those with rear-wheel drive and standard transmissions. Driving a car is like slipping on a glove. Cars do what I want them to — mostly — before I tell them what to do. A plane never would. Motorcycles don't, either.

Trucks are like cars to me, though the bigger they are the less one can or should do in attempting to take advantage of any "natural" ability — for lack of a better term — to pull an iron out of the fire — that is when it isn't your fault the iron is there. A good driver wouldn't put himself in that spot in the first place. This, I don't doubt, is the case with anything that flies.

Five-cent philosophical rant: A natural ability at anything and the confidence it engenders — playing pro ball, for instance (though I'm not saying this was the case with Cory Lidle, just that the possibility exists) — doesn't extend automatically to anything else. Maybe it was obvious to me because I could compare one mechanical contrivance with another. My flying lessons taught me a lot, though piloting an aircraft was the least of it.

Too bad I forgot it when I tried skydiving. Oh, God, that hurt. Ha ha ha ha ha.
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2006, 11:57:51 AM »
Hi D76,  I like your explanation of how a good driver makes the car become an extension.
Oh, how I wish that Massachusetts drivers were as knowlegable as that, perhaps we would have fewer accidents.  We sure have plenty, and 99% of them are caused by human error and just plain human stupidity(and alcohol and drugs), but that goes along with stupidity.
I prefer not to drive in the city any more, and try not to drive much after dark any more.
Jane

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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2006, 03:01:20 PM »
The streets, like the skies, would be much safer if everyone else stayed off/out of them! flower-smilie.gif I suspect the internet might also be safer with that change, even if a lot less interesting...

Not many pilots continue if they don't really enjoy it. But I still wonder about a young ( at the time ) lady who flew as my First Officer a few times. I asked her how she became interested in flying ( there were only a few 'girl' pilots at FedEx then ). She claimed that since she found out she was too short to be a stewardess, she to the next best option! She was quite a character and I suspect she was 'playing' me on the line which I swallowed, hook, line and sinker! blush-anim-cl.gif She was funny, but I think the joke was on me! smile.gif

Tragically, she ( and her husband ) were severely injured in a traffic accident. She had both lungs transplanted ( I didn't even know that was possible and sounds like a last ditch solution! ) and made a long slow recovery, but will never be able to fly commercially again.
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