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« on: December 08, 2006, 10:59:38 AM »
I am  an “experienced” consumer, or, alternatively, according to ABD an RNKIII, an olde man.

Yet not ever in my life, never – not once – have I experienced such inept, ineffective, unproductive  “service” from any corporate entity as has been revealed in my last 10 days with Earthlink, Inc. Their South Asia “techs” are a mendacious gang . . . who also obfuscate, mislead, and mostly fail in discharging any responsibility to the customer.

In the past, I have advised angry TeeEssers distressed by stupid “customer service” to write a polite letter to the subject corporation’s CEO so informing him/her of the problems in the organization  and requesting assistance in their amelioration. Despite more than 10 days of increasing rage at the mistreatment I have received, I am seeking to follow my own advice. But, for TeeEss, should you be interested, here is the sad and sorry saga . . . to date

Relevant indices:

Mid October – I responded affirmatively to a telephoned offer from Earthlink to switch from PacBell/SBC/ATT (ending a > 40 year ‘’relationship”) in order to get hi-speed DSL - on the promise that it would be accomplished in 2-3 weeks. That was a falsehood.

On November 21st, or thereabouts, was informed the switchover would take place on 11/28 and to watch for my “Welcome Kit” (Ho, Ho, Ho!), to include a new hi-speed modem a few days prior to it. That was a falsehood.

I was alerted not to hook it up until after switchover.

Tuesday, 11/28, mid-afternoon, the switchover occurs with minimum disruption. The phone connection seems fine. I did not learn until 10 days later that also was a false portrayal of the true situation, as only one line of our two had been successfully changed. On the Earthlink-conected line, however and obviously, with no specialized modem yet received, no internet/e-mail access was possible.

With a dollop of impatience. I awaited delivery of my “welcome”  and its associated modem until the next morning, when it appeared on my doorstep – several days late . That was Wednesday, 11/29. Installing the modem on a dedicated DSL connection to our drop box was a no brainer. Earthlink has a very good “manual”. Really.

However . .  .
  • Problem Nr. 1: No signal. A “helpful” letter in the Welcome Kit says to seek assistance for connection problems by checking-in on Earthlink’s web site.
  • Problem Nr. 2: No signal makes connecting to the internet just a mite complicated. So I asked my son to go on-line for me from his home to at least retrieve a phone number I might contact.
In the succeeding seven days (I am NOT making this up) I have spent in excess of 15 hours "on hold", + another several hours talking to something over 15 Earthlink minions (most in South Asia). The falsehoods they have endeavored to propagate – flowing from either their ignorance or malevolence – have been dazzling to behold. Some samples:
  1. There is nothing wrong with my modem
  2. There is something wrong with my residence’s wiring
  3. There is something wrong with my Mac set-up
  4. My new modem has been shipped. It will  arrive tomorrow.
  5. My PIN is activated.
  6. My new PIN is activated
  7. Asking each each participant in this charade his/her name gets only “Andy”, “Carl”, “Ted”. “Denise” etc,  etc.
Oh! suuure.
Fortunately, among this misbegotten pack, I have encountered 3 or 4 operatives who have been genuine, polite, straight with me,  and helpful. One was a Covad repair guy who came to the house. He arrived, well-groomed, on time, was well-spoken – completely checking-out my wiring and declaring that it was excellent, noting that already possessing a dedicated line for the previous PacBell modem (done 7-8 years ago) would obviate the need for any filters on any of our phones. He declared my modem as defective and, while sitting at my desk, connected to our DSL line with his neat little portable system, he ordered a new modem   That was 8 days ago.

I called (South Asia) on Friday morning to check on the tracking number for the modem’s delivery by UPS. I was told that was not available. That was a falsehood. I was told the modem would be delivered no later than Monday, since Friday would be required for “approval”. That was a falsehood.

Returning home late Wednesday evening from a trip out of town, I eagerly looked forward to installing my modem and, finally, getting on-line. No modem at the door. Called the “Help” line, was told it was closed. Was given another (South Asia) number. Was told that the modem had been delivered at (I am not making this up!!!) 1:03a EST, 12/7. Since I am in the PST zone, and it was still 12/6 I found that falsehood especially chalenging. Asking for a tracking number for this ephemeral modem I was given an 18 digit number. That, it developed later, ws a falsehood. The time-of-day anomaly was unaddressed. I went to bed.

Thursday morning (12/7) I began calling at 6:50a to “find” my modem. By 11:09a. I had spoken to another 6 or 7 Earthlink operatives, only two of whom have not lied to me. From the truthful ones, I have discovered that no modem was ever dispatched last Thursday, or Friday, or Monday or whenever, that the new tracking number furnished me was imaginary, a falsehood. Oh yes, I’ve also discovered that one of our two lines has never been changed from PacBell. This series of calls finally ended unsatisfactorily at 1:15p, more than six hours after initiation.

Enough for now.

• • •


“To assure quality service, this (these) call(s) may be recorded”

Well, I hope so, just in case anyone within the organization ever condescends to investigate to confirm the veracity of my account. I have gone from puzzlement, to surprise, to disappointment, to distress, to a state of towering range. Apoplectic  doesn’t even come close!

I cannot imagine the overall health of an organization which maintains “help desk”personnel in such tiny proportions who actually tell the truth while acting effectively to solve customer problems with dispatch, while also avoiding the slathering-on of insincere “apologies”.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2006, 11:06:00 AM by RHPConsult »

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2006, 11:37:12 AM »
RH,

I'm sorry that you've had to go through all this hassle.  Hopefully, your tale of woe will prevent others from repeating your experience.

QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Dec 8 2006, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The falsehoods they have endeavored to propagate – flowing from either their ignorance or malevolence – have been dazzling to behold.
IMO, there's a 3rd, and more likely, explanation for this: corporate policy.

I had one very brief 'encounter' w/ Earthlink several years ago: they offered to re-sell RoadRunner high-speed internet access to me for less than TimeWarner was charging me, so I tried it.  

It was so bad [I don't recall the sordid details], that I switched back within the first month.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2006, 11:48:42 AM »
I don't think I would have lasted as long as you have RHP. I'd either switch back to PacBell or go with your local highspeed cable option!!!

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2006, 11:57:26 AM »
I've been told, on occasion, that the inscription on my tombstone should read . . .

But, it seemed like such a good idea at the time

• • •

In fact, kbear, with a few (very few) bumps in the road, I've been a contented Earthlink subscriber for as many years as they been in business. PacBell came into the picture as the first provider of DSL in the Bay Area.

We'll see about "corporate policy" when the president decides to respond (or not) to my missive . . . the bowdlerized version.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2006, 12:01:08 PM »
Now I know why you have not been "seen" on the iSight site...whoops ,sorry about that.
George
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should that be nosite.....oh never mind.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2006, 12:05:59 PM »
I suppose most of us have dealt with the inept and incompetent before and, on occasion, have been frustrated beyond reason. But RHP's saga is the worst I have heard. No other tale even comes close. And the story is not even over. rant.gif

Oy veh!
« Last Edit: December 08, 2006, 12:26:42 PM by pendragon »
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2006, 12:20:52 PM »
QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Dec 8 2006, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We'll see about "corporate policy" when the president decides to respond (or not) to my missive . . . the bowdlerized version.
You should send the letter in a cardboard box full of bricks and a fish dead for a month — collect.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2006, 12:22:10 PM by D76 »

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2006, 12:45:02 PM »
Where's that salt shaker...

Found it!

Went to the site I maintain and discovered a css change I made a few days ago 'adjusted' some stuff on a different page. No problem. Quick edit should put things back i order. Open Fetch to upload the edits and BAM! "Cannot locate that domain"! What? Click the 'Connect' button again, same result. Again, same result. Again. Isn't this the definition of 'stoopid'; doing the same thing while expecting different results! blush-anim-cl.gif

Called the 800 number for the hosting company, "We're extremely busy right now..." and left a message. However, their 'busyness' indicated that they probably were already working on the problem. smile.gif

A few minutes later I get a call from the company, "We're not having any problems here. What's yours?" I read the domain I'd been using for the last few years and discovered that it was really just a 'back door' to our site and I needed to change the info in Fetch. I did and things worked as they should. The tech also said he didn't know why the 'back door' seemed to be 'closed' but I was the second to report the problem and they would take care of it! Problem solved, max of 10 minutes! smile.gif ( rubbing salt into corporate abrasion site of 'old man' )

Second 'corporate' site experience for the day. Doorbell rang and it was a delivery by FedEx of a package that they said should be expected next Monday! So, I have my 99¢ ethernet switch from NewEgg 3 days early! ( rub, rub, rub... harhar.gif )

We have had some interesting insurance 'confrontations', however, they eventually get corrected. Fortunately, Judy has the patience and knowledge to deal with them. Her training comes from dealing with insurance/medicare for many years with various relatives who depended on her skills. And it does take some training! I don't know how 90% of the elderly handle the paperwork! rant.gif
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2006, 02:30:19 PM »
Oh. My. Word! RHP, my experience with earthlink was never a good one and it would, sadly, rival your story. We were stuck because they bought out JPS.net (a GREAT company) and there was no alternative other than aohe11. As soon as SBC came on the scene we signed up. Earthlink couldn't understand why we'd dumped them. HA!

We have a SUPER provider here. Never any major probs. I mean, a storm with 88mph winds that blows out the power and requires one to reset a modem and router isn't their fault. wink.gif

I do feel for you and hope this is soon straightened out to your satisfaction.

Sure have missed you around here.

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2006, 02:49:55 PM »
All's well that ends well?

Well, at least it has ended! Woo Hoo!  clap.gif  Some of that "salt" must have drifted across the Continental Divide, ABD.   eusa_dance.gif

About an hour ago, as promised yesterday by one of only 4 "good guys" encountered over the past 11 days (named Olson), the replacement modem arrived. UPS   biggrin.gif

Interestingly, it is a Netopia w/12v power (the defective original was a ZyXel w/9v power  huh.gif  ).

Set-up was a breeze. Very nice data display confirming about a dozen or so network "tests" that were completed upon boot-up. On-screen instructions easy as that proverbial pie. Did need to make one call to ELN. Got a quick connection with the "Mac Department" and an operative named "Lee" who knew his stuff and had a sense of humor, combined.

We chatted about my ordeal over the last 11 days. He apologized in what I judged to be a sincere manner and tone, apparently unprompted by any legend monitor.

The sun is shining and the birds are singing in Northern California (at least in as much of it as I can see).   flower-smilie.gif

Thanks for "listening".  I really feel better now.

A "consumer report" will follow in the next week or so, should anyone be interested in how the pudding "proves" out!
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2006, 03:42:42 PM »
eusa_dance.gif So glad your 'On the road agaain" so to speak...

Look forward to seeing you shining visage upon my screen in the not too distant future... eek2.gif


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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2006, 04:38:20 PM »
I don't know. I guess I'm glad things worked out but it all seems rather anti-climatic. I had visions of an upcoming documentary destroying what goodwill EarthLink/Mindspring has left. All done on a Mac, of course. Even envisioned the Leader doing a man-to-man talk with our RHP, congratulating him on his endurance and intelligence, all generated by a use of the Mac and its "Apple Way". Oh well, guess I can go back outside and pour some boiling water in the fish pond. Boring...
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2006, 06:41:02 PM »
Well there you are…..and I thought the sunny south had captured your senses.

Like you, I was drawn by ELN (earthlink) to a deal I just couldn’t refuse and like you ELN’s representatives misrepresented their actions.

My first VoIP contract was with ELN and a VoIP box that never came. Time after time promises were made, tracking #’s were given expectations were deflated. Using a friend and a backdoor into the ELN structure I discovered that the system was Vontage and although the corporate deal was struck the folks at Vontage didn’t like their final arrangement so contracts were mysteriously lost, as were invisible shipped items. After 2 weeks of BS I moved on, concluding that I wanted no part of this partnership.

ELN has served me well for nine years as an ISP and as long as I let them do what they’re good at I shouldn’t have a problem.

We’re captive here, our choice in Cable ISP’s is Earthlink or RoadRunner, or South Asian service or No Service at all.

I'm sure the letter you send to ELN, will not be the first on this topic. wink.gif

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2006, 06:43:58 PM »
Ive got an old Earthlink account, as they bought my capecod.net account.
Ive had no communications from them whatsoever, except my yearly bill for keeping my email address and my old site.
Should I look at this to terminate?
But they are only my back-up dial up?  I only use them once in a while to connect when the cable is out, and it works perfectly, so do I have to do anything?
Jane

Oh, I am reading further, Insurance, oh my god, car insurance and house insurance in Massachusetts, that is really another story, its a hoot, until you have to deal with it, which we have managed to circumvent for the while.
Then the "Epitome of Incompetence" the Massachusetts Jury System.   I did think I posted it on here a month ago, but I was so angry that I cant even remember.  I was seething as I missed the most interesting session on Cape Cod that will ever happen again.
And this is inside our own county!  Is nobody responsible for their job any more?  Yes if you own the business, but not if you work for somebody else or the government,,,,,,and if you screw up, you SHIFT the BLAME.  
Its so sad, but as you say, just keep on calling calling callinggggggg,,,,,,,or show up at their regional office and tell them that you can jump in for free and tell them how to fix it, everybody in the office will jump up from their desks and open their sleepy eyes wide and listen, then you will be ushered out,,,,,,
No wonder our country is outsourcing,,,,,But I do know that our kids work at places in scientific research where you are indeed responsible for your work, and one kid works at a Toyota agency, and Toyota kicks b***, so thats where its at, either that company deals or it goes under.
I could tell a lot more, as our kids are in the industries where things like this matter, and I am sure that a lot of your kids here are doing the same, like what Toyota is doing, kicking b*** and doing the best.
Jane
Oh sorry for the rant, but Ive a problem with GMC at themoment, with owning one of their products that nobody can repair, and yes I just might sell all our GM stock and euthanize my truck.

There is no excuse for incompetance. When I am angry, god help my spelliing,
Jane
  Oh Toyota might be listening!
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2006, 09:36:36 PM »
I don't know how I missed this at lunch time today....

WOW.gif what a sad story! In competence is one of the most difficult things to deal with. Glad it seems to have worked out. whew.gif
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