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Offline Jack W

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« on: January 22, 2007, 03:12:20 PM »
OK, I have my PowerBook G4 all set up. Transferred most of the stuff from my Quicksilver 2002 using Migration Assistant. I set internet connect "Using DHCP"

All seems to be working fine except connection to  the WWW. Nothing happens when I try to use firefox. It comes up fime, but  when I click on a URL, nothing happens — NADA — Zilch. It asks me to check the URL, none work.

I currently have a direct connection via Ethernet, the same as with my QS. When I check firefox prefs, all is set up identically on the two systems.

I tried some of the utilities in the Applications-Utilities folder, but couldn't get a clue. Of course I've been accused many times of being clueless or "not having a clue".

 sos.gif Any ideas? What esoteric thing am I missing?

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2007, 03:44:20 PM »
The settings are not in FF. They are in the Network Pref Panel. First, check that "Ethernet" is enabled and working. If it is, check that the cable didn't get damaged during the connecting/disconnecting/reconnecting.

You say you are connected 'direct via Ethernet', I assume that means directly to a DSL or cable modem and not to the Quicksilver, is that correct? If so, can you re-connect the Quicksilver to the web and surf?
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2007, 04:33:35 PM »
What router are you using?
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2007, 06:00:04 PM »
Connected via Ethernet hub to cable modem.

The lights on the hub are flashing for all three ports — Cable moden, QS 2002, PB.

I checked the network settings — looks like it should.

Location:Automatic
Show:Built-in Ethernet
Configure IPv4:Using DHCP
Ethernet ID: .........
Configure:Automatically

When I click on a URL, I get:

"Firefox can't find server at www.techsurvivors.net."

Same with other URLs

The QS 2002 works fine.

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 06:19:34 PM »
IMO, a hub doesn't do what is needed in this case, you need a router.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2007, 06:20:19 PM »
What about trying to goto an IP address such as http://64.233.167.104/ (this is google's IP)?

If that works, then your machine isn't getting the DNS information it needs. Maybe you need to get the DNS servers from the cable modem, and enter them into your Mac.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2007, 06:38:46 PM »
I'm now connected with the PB.

OK, I:

Disconnected QS.
Powered off cable modem.
Plugged Enet cable from PB to  cable modem.
Restarted PB.

Got on, but very slow.

I think the key was powering off the cable modem.
I'm going to re-activate the hub and do some experimenting.

Thanks for the leads everybody.

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2007, 06:52:34 PM »
That worked also.

Methinks Time Warner Cable doesn't like two computers sharing a RoadRunner connection.

Also, kbear is probably righty, a router probably would solve the problem.

Altho again very slow. Why? - Setting?

Now I'm going to kick back and switch back to  the QS.
More experimenting tomorrow.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2007, 06:59:07 PM »
I agree with KBear. A Hub is the wrong tool. smile.gif

Get a Router.

For now you could try Internet Connection Sharing. smile.gif

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?pa...4/en/mh336.html
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 07:41:36 PM »
What router would you good people recommend?
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 09:08:21 PM »
Airport Extreme - I know they're expensive compared to others, but mine has been SO superior to all the others I tried before, that I think it is well worth the extra $$. smile.gif
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 09:16:10 PM »
IAWP....


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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 10:20:15 PM »
Jack:

IAW – P – & – RHKiii

I used NetGear, uhmm, gear, for a 2-3 years, in increasing frustration as it semingly kept declining in performance w/age   biggrin.gif   surprise, surprise. Actually we were getting new electronics at home and they may have made the difference. I bought remote access points . . . the works . . . had even begun to shop for new and more powerful antenna (@ >$200)

Then, I came to my senses and decided to follow the sound advice (on TeeEss) of Paddy and RNKiii. I got an Airport Extreme Base Station and paired it with an Airport Express that I already possessed for travel. Bingo! We finally achieved Complete Coverage, capital "C" – all around the house and onto the patio.

Don't even consider anything else. 'Twill solve all your problems within the first 3 minutes you have it plugged in (after all, it's a Macintosh! . . . just situate it up as high as you can, in some location close to the cable modem's ethernet connection.

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That handsome Apple Base Station took the place of a NetGear . .
  1. Hub
  2. Wireless switch/router
  3. Wireless remote access point
  4. Powerline Adapter
 All Netgear, all gone. The Apple Express is just icing on a very fine cake. Wonderful!
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2007, 09:45:38 AM »
Been playing around with the PB this am. Am on it now, and everything's cookin' along splendidly.

Methinks that slowness last evening was on the WWW, not in the PB. Same thing happened on the QS.

All's fine now. Everything checks out, and with Migration Assistant it looks like all  transferred over. Only a couple of very small glitches.

I think I will just let well enough alone and just stick with the current setup. I don't really need to run the two systems simultaneously. I just needed to switch back and forth while I was setting up the PB.

Then when I get a hankerin to use my PB on my lap in the easy chair in the living room I will consider getting an Airport Extreme base station.

I also got to check out the battery life while I was setting up — had the power adapter disconnected for about three hours — the whole time doing disk intensive work booting from the backup partition on my FW Seagate external. Transferring back and forth using SuperDuper! to clone the systems, Disk Utility to  partition the PB drive and many other odds and ends. The screen was back and forth bright and dim, but never off. No glitches. Finally it went to sleep after 3 hours when all was done. I'd call that good timing!

I might just put the PB to sleep (Shut Down) for a couple of weeks, and then activate it again a few days before we leave for AZ. So I can update my data files and Apps for the trip. But for now, everything's looking good for the road trip.

I really like this PB — stays cool, is extremely quiet and is plenty fast enough. Like they say, its "proven technology", and it WORKS!

Thanks for all your help — its much appreciated.
 
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2007, 10:55:07 AM »
Good deal. smile.gif

For a long period of time.

Turn it off. Don't sleep it, IMO.

Otherwise, sleep is pretty handy. smile.gif
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