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« on: January 26, 2007, 04:45:38 AM »
My oldest is about to make to decisions as to her future - ie what subjects to take at school?

She is very interested in being a forensic scientist (too much CSI!) and I wondered if anyone is one, knows one or could put me in the right direction.

She is also quite interested in being a Scenes of Crime Officer!  So ditto for that too!

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2007, 12:47:50 PM »
I only know one person who's worked in the field; she used to be a forensic medical examiner in LA. Now she's the lead singer of a band called the Genitorturers. So that's probably not very helpful.  laugh.gif
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2007, 08:33:18 PM »
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Now she's the lead singer of a band called the Genitorturers

Tacit - I thought that you were making up that group but now I know from Google that you're not!   smile.gif IOD indeed!
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2007, 08:27:34 AM »
Forensic science is really quite interesting, I Googled it a looked at some of the sites, this one was interesting from an instructors viewpoint.
http://www.criminology.fsu.edu/faculty/nute/FScareers.html
It can be a part of law enforcement or a medical career, depending on how much education she has had.  Has she completed medical school?  Or looking to go directly into the field as a technician, or whatever.  She should consult the guidance department, and do a lot of research before deciding.

I do know that DNA is now a large part of crime solving, a brutal murder was solved here in our area by this method.
All in all, I would think that this could be a very interesting career.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2007, 09:30:35 AM »
Well at the moment, she is 13! and school are making her think about her future.  She filled in a computer programme (Kudos) and it came back with dog groomer or horse groom.  No offence, but I'm afraid I had rather a pink fit and said she should think again.  I wouldn't mind if she wasn't one of the most intelligent clever people I know - the girl is a human calculator.

So she came up with Forensic scientist or Scene of Crime Officer - she loves CSI and loves the bits where they examine stuff.

So, hence the question......

IMO it is very difficult for kids to have to make these career decisions so young.  

Thanks for all help.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2007, 10:02:21 AM »
Thats great!  She sounds like one bright gal.
Lots of the bright kids will take up an interest very early as she has done, and turn it into a hobby of sorts.  
I know this for a fact, as one of our youngsters was like this. And now she councils young high school girls who are interested in science and also judges at some of the science fairs.  Much easier to raise kids like yours and ours, than some of the others who are 'partying' and getting arrested.  
She sounds like a winner!  Congrats.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2007, 10:28:24 AM »
Thanks, Jane

Elder one is a great kid.  No trouble, very clever, very intelligent - will go far.

Younger one is a nightmare - opened up Bebo account have been told she can't (she is 11 -  you have to be 13, not that they check).  Then lied about it.  Then opened Hotmail account so I wouldn't know what was going on.  Hah!  She did not count on a Mac leaving a trail including passwords!  Silly girl.  Sadly, she is very clever and will rule the world, probably via a satellite link in a police cell.  I blame her friends - they are beyond ghastly (little trampettes at 11 with boyfriends).  I can only hope and pray that all my naggings will save her from them and she will see right from wrong.

Ah well, as long as they are happy, eh?

Fx

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2007, 11:57:54 AM »
QUOTE(Frances144 @ Jan 27 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]117129[/snapback]
So she came up with Forensic scientist or Scene of Crime Officer - she loves CSI and loves the bits where they examine stuff.
She must know, of course, that most of the the whiz-bang gizmos on CSI are as fictional as the rapid results and the municipalities' budgets that would allow them to buy the stuff.

This Wikipedia article blows the lid off the scandal of the millennium!! (and there's a lot of millennium left).

I found it with a search for CSI TV "the reality" that hauls up a lot of stuff. I can't find the story that laughs at the actors' use of flashlights. In that story, a real-life investigator says they turn on all the lights they can find. I saw an episode the other day where one of the "investigators" used her flashlight outside at mid-day.

The ultimate CSI: "Through a Glass Darkly." David Caruso is found dead, killed by the weight of thousands of sunglasses dumped from an aircraft on his head by an evil mobster living in a shack in the Florida Everglades, and who's running a New York crime family via a 7-Eleven blister-pack prepaid cellphone purchased in Las Vegas.

This would allow all the stars of all the shows to appear together in this grand-finalé two-hour sunglasses spectacle. Despite being dead, Caruso would have lots of screen time through the use of heavily filtered flashbacks and zooming macro animations of sunglasses nosepieces slicing through molecules of air as they fall from the plane.

The audience, though, is disappointed when it turns out Caruso isn't dead. It was only a ruse to trace the mobster's cell-phone call to a florist shop that he phoned to supply flowers at the funeral, a tradition among mobsters that all CSI investigators know about because they watched The Untouchables. Caruso had merely been hidden away in a morgue's body drawer — after borrowing an overcoat and mitts from one of the New York CSIers. He passed the time by using his flashlight to read books.

As the credits roll, hilarious out-takes loaded with censoring bleeps are shown of Caruso  stabbing himself in the eye as he puts on his sunglasses.

Complete DVD sets will include "CSI: Behind the Scenes," in which each actor praises to the skies the abilities of each of the others, and with each telling of the rare and marvellous chemistry that grew among them that made the shows such a success.

But the shows never disappear, of course. Your great-great grandchildren will be watching them on Spike TV, sandwiched between Star Trek episodes and I Love Lucy marathons. Like us, how lucky they'll be.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2007, 01:14:50 PM »
Our oldest child, the one who is involved with the science teaching, refuses to have a TV in their house.  Her husband agrees, so no TV.
They are allowed to watch DVDs and movies on their computers.  And when they visit the grandparents, they are allowed to watch our TV, but we have to approve of the show.
I think that many of the TV programs nowadays, are giving the children a very warped idea of reality.
Thats why we have to censor so very carefully.  There is a lot of good stuff, but you have to find it.  I think there is a way to block channels, but since we only have one TV and its in the living room, there is no way that they can sneak onto the crappy channels.  And they dont know that they are there, yet,,,,,,,
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2007, 03:19:30 PM »
D76, I had to laugh when you mentioned the flashlight bit - I've always thought to myself "How incredibly gullible do they think their audience is???" when they creep around dark houses mid-day with flashlights, instead of opening the blinds and turning the lights on!! Hello? Or is the power turned off as soon as someone is murdered?? rolleyes.gif

The one caveat about a career in forensics is that it has become extremely popular in the past few years, due entirely to the popularity of the CSI empire. Might be worth checking to see just how many jobs there actually are in the field. And also, make sure that she understands that the stuff you see on TV bears little resemblance to real life!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2007, 03:30:47 PM »
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You mean that isn't real life drama?  getsick.gif

I know what you mean about creeping about in daylight with a flashlight.  They used to do that all the time in X-files.  Turn the bloody light on!

Anyway, I think elder daughter will change her mind with the wind a few more times before she settles into a decision!

Meanwhile, we may steer her into a job as a lawyer, as her younger sister will probably need a good one soon!

Cheers all.
Francesx
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2007, 06:02:34 PM »
QUOTE(D76 @ Jan 27 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]117148[/snapback]
The ultimate CSI: "Through a Glass Darkly." David Caruso is found dead, killed by the weight of thousands of sunglasses dumped from an aircraft on his head…


 clap.gif  Good one! He must meaningfully remove his sunglasses two or three times per show!  He's got to be the silliest-looking actor on TV today.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2007, 07:25:36 PM »
I wish, just once, that he would hold his head up straight!
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2007, 08:15:51 PM »
I, for one, have used the flashlight technique to help me see to find something small; it concentrates the eyes in one location.  It also helps to use your peripheral vision to pick things out.  I have a nice bright multi-LED flashlight that I use inside printers and computers to pick out physical defects and such.  Often on CSI they are supposed to be using a black light flashlight with a shield.

I also figure the Caruso's wife would've done herself in if someone hadn't killed her; he would make anyone crazy!   smile.gif
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2007, 08:35:59 PM »
You all are beyond me, as I dont know anything about CSI movies, but anyway I do use a LED headlight when needed.
And I do know that kids need to be steered towards science and reality, and not TV.
Jane