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« on: January 29, 2007, 08:21:40 PM »
Just watched a segment on Channel 2 news in Los Angeles.  Not a good review, and was told that it had some rather nice features (stolen from Apple), but not really woth the upgrade.

The man reviewing Vista said that people will go out and buy it, but ultimately will be let down.

I can't believe how many versions of the Vista is floating around on the store shelves, and ranges from 99.99 to 500.

What a rip-off!

I'm waiting for a Microsof commercial to air, and then across the bottom of the screen pops up an Apple ad.  Kindof like the Energizer Bunny that popped up in a lot of commercial ads.

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 07:43:40 AM »
No surprises there, eh?
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 01:35:27 PM »
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Just watched a segment on Channel 2 news in Los Angeles. Not a good review, and was told that it had some rather nice features (stolen from Apple), but not really woth the upgrade.


They discussed how features were stolen from Mac OS X and incorporated into Vista.


Spotlight vs. Instant Search
Microsoft thought they could cover their buts by putting it in the lower right corner instead of in the upper left


Calendar and Mail in Mac OS X and Vista.
I can't tell which one is which!


Safari RSS vs. Internet Explorer 7 RSS
They think they can just change the colors and call it their own.

One thing Mac OS X will NEVER have is this:

Microsoft got tired of Blue so they made it red in early revisions of Longhorn/Vista









I'm not upgrading my home PC's to Vista at all. I think it's a waste of money and i would rather use Mac OS X which is more stable and actually original. I don't think Vista will really sell until Microsoft stops supporting Windows XP. IT Staff won't incorporate it into their networks so quickly because A) it's expensive, B) it will require them to upgrade their hardware, and C) Windows XP has been the most stable release of Windows (and the longest living, being released just about five years ago!) There's just no reason to upgrade.

Hey... and look at the logos... It's the same old windows just with a little aqua bubble over it.

Microsoft's trying to cover something up, eh?
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 02:37:21 PM »
Just released a bit late - by a couple of years.  rolleyes.gif   I wouldn't be surprised if this helps Apple sales.  cheer.gif

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 02:43:55 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 04:54:18 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 09:09:23 PM »
Microsoft has sat back for the past 5 years and watched Apple innovate the Mac OS.  Then, Microsoft did what they do best, steal ideas from Apple and Steve Jobs.  That is how Windows was created, why stop now?

What bothers me is that if Windows is even more so a Mac OS clone there will be even less of a reason for a Windows user to switch.  Remember Apples old ad "Think Different"?  Well, if there isn't a difference to the average user then what is Apples edge?


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I wouldn't be surprised if this helps Apple sales.


I don't know about that Kathy.  The only way I see that this would help sell more Apple computers is if the Copying issue is very much publicised.  I even doubt that would make much difference to most people.

I remember hearing years ago that in some kind of deal, Apple gave Microsoft permission to copy the Mac OS.   Is that true?  And is that how Microsoft can legally get away with it?  Copying that is.

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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 09:27:09 PM »
Good find, Bob!

Vista - the Ford of operating systems....

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Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 09:58:59 PM »
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I remember hearing years ago that in some kind of deal, Apple gave Microsoft permission to copy the Mac OS.   Is that true?  And is that how Microsoft can legally get away with it?  Copying that is.


Yes, it is true. However, Microsoft was only given permission to copy Mac OS in Windows 1, but not in future versions. When this issue was brought to court, judgement was ruled in favor of Microsoft, because of breaches in the contract with Apple that Microsoft drew up.

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Windows 1.0 Fails to Open Market

Meanwhile, the first version of Windows failed to catch on. The only major application written for Windows 1.01 (the first version available to the public) was Aldus PageMaker. PageMaker was actually bundled with a runtime version of Windows, since almost no PC user owned Windows.

That began to change with the release of Windows 2.0 on November, 1 1987.



Windows 2.0 with overlapping windows (reduced from 640 x 480)


Windows 2.0 was a huge improvement over version 1.0, and Sculley recognized it. The new version offered overlapping windows, multitasking, and a limited object oriented environment (through a rudimentary version of OLE).

Besides the new features, Windows 2.0 actually had programs for it. During the press conference, Microsoft revealed that it had finished developing Microsoft Word for Windows and Microsoft Excel for Windows, and that outside companies including Aldus, Corel, and Microtek were all working on Windows 2.0-compatible programs.

Sculley was shocked at how much Windows 2.0 resembled the Macintosh, and he believed this to be a breach of contract. Sculley, along with most of the Apple legal team, believed that the November 1985 agreement gave Microsoft permission to use Macintosh displays in Windows 1.x, but not in any later versions.

Talk to the Judge

Without warning, Apple filed suit against Microsoft in federal court on March 17, 1988 for violating Apple's copyrights on the "visual displays" of the Macintosh. (Apple also filed suit against HP for its NewWave environment that ran on top of Windows 2.0.)

Apple's suit included 189 contested visual displays that Apple believed violated its copyright.

Microsoft countersued, but it failed to stem the bad publicity. Windows' development community was terrified that any court ordered changes to the software would render their products incompatible and make Windows undesirable to consumers. Borland's CEO said it was like "waking up and finding out that your partner might have AIDS."

Fortunately for Windows developers, Judge W. Schwarzer ruled on July 25, 1989, that 179 of the 189 disputed displays were covered by the existing license, and most of the other ten were not violations of Apple's copyright due to the merger doctrine (the merger doctrine stipulates that ideas cannot be copyrighted). In the case of Apple vs. Microsoft, many of the displays Apple contested were ideas and could not be protected by copyright.

The lawsuit was decided in Microsoft's favor on August 24, 1993.



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How did Microsoft support Windows 3.1 longer than Windows 95?
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2007, 08:50:35 PM »
Thanks, Parker.

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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 08:51:56 PM »
any time
i got my hands on vista.
i'm putting up my screenshots in a sec
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