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« on: February 28, 2007, 07:09:43 PM »
My wife and I have major road trips coming up, and I'm thinking of buying a GPS navigation system for my car -- one that can be moved to other vehicles (such as rentals) if necessary. The "TomTom One" looks attractive to me.

Would like to hear from anyone who has experience with this or other models of such. How well do they work, what features should I look for, and what are the advantages/disadvantages?

Thanks to all.

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 07:42:01 PM »
Joe...

Sure RHP will be along soon, He has one that he swears by and has used it all over the place.

Know from checking for my own enlightenment... that both the TomTom 510 and TomTom 1 are good items.

Good luck in your search... and let us know what you decide on.



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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 02:39:48 AM »
JW:

I got my first TomTom GPS because it was the only supplier who provided a product for a Palm. . . aka Navigator 5. It has been both fun and a very frequent a time saver, when seeking and reaching a new address. I've used it all across the country and in Hawaii. It consists of a sensor that rests on the dash and a holder for Palm Pilot (w/wired and Bluetooth connections)

Last December, I purchased a free-standing "Go" model for my brother-in-law's new car . . . as a result of our getting lost (going East instead of West) while exiting St. Louis airport at 10 o'clock one night – he from Ohio, we from California, both trying to get to Columbia, MO for a funeral.

Last summer, my Navigator "found" us when we got lost at 11pm trying to return to a hotel (via a forested route) from downtown Alexandria, VA, following our attending the celebration of the 250th anniversary of its founding. We were really lost, really, when "the voice" known as "Lori" told me to make a U-turn. 4 minutes later we emerged from the forest and there was our hotel. BINGO.

My brother-in-law was somewhat reluctant to accept the gift, (thinking it a bit extravagant) until he had about 10 minutes experience with it. Now he could be a TomTom "spokesman"!

Compared to the Palm "accessory" model, the newest "Go" model  has a major positive change: the maps are already installed when you get the device. Don't settle for any other arrangement. Loading the maps onto the Palm was the only downside of getting Navigator initially set-up. All brands, I believe, now have the same "feature" of preloaded maps.

I very much like the bright screen of TomTom (it can be reduced at night), the "voice" (of 6 available, 3 male, 3 female) that provides informative audible prompts, PLUS the text legends that change as you move along the map, giving such useful data as . . .
  • what the next change of direction will be on your chosen route
  • the mileage to that direction change
  • the time required to drive to that direction change
  • the identity of your present route (number or name)
  • the identity of the route when you make the direction change
  • an estimated time before arriving at your destination
It's really nifty, JW.

Only real downside (and I cannot comment on Garmin or Magellan) is its lethargic tech support. OK w/on-line FAQs, but a somnolent pace of its phone support. Fortunately, such support is not needed in any great measure.

Let me know if you need any further information. "Go" for it!  clap.gif
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 12:40:49 PM »
i used TomTom and the Garmin Nüvi and i happen to like the Nüvi the best. It's slim, easy to use, and it will tell you the distance to your next turn, unlike the TomTom i tried out.

Personally, i'm all for in-car nav, but when you've got to go portable, you've got to go portable.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2007, 12:56:58 PM »
FWIW, I tried both the Garmin and the Tom Tom in cars driving, and thought the Garmin easier to program, and the driving software was far superior to the Tom Tom.  The TT was about $100 cheaper at the time, which is a big advantage, but for the quality of the software, I went for the Garmin.  My wife who is somewhat technology challenged manages to use it to find garage sales!

The software is the difference.  There's a reason they are the oldest in the GPS business and have tried to make their software as user friendly as possible.  The downside is that though they have proported to have Mac friendly software available to update Points of interest and map routes, they still have not released it.  At this time, you will need a Win machine to do any updating.

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2007, 01:00:50 PM »
Ken,
you took the words right out of my mouth!
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 02:55:28 PM »
JW:

Not sure what our colleagues mean by "programming." e.g. if I want to go from home to, say an address in Santa Barbara, CA or Coshocton, OH, or Santa Fe, NM here are the steps in TomTom:
  1. Turn on the sensor
  2. Wait perhaps 10 seconds while the satellites are acquired (this process is aided quite significantly if you first back out of your garage!!!  toothgrin.gif
  3. "Accept" (tap) the boilerplate warning that driving and setting the TomTom  (simultaneously) may not be the smartest thing to do! (You only have to do this once in a given trip)
  4. Touch (tap) a "Navigate to . . ." icon – select a State (tap), a City (tap) – which may already be in your displayed roster – a Street )tap), and a Number (tap,tap,tap,tap)
  5. Answer a YES/NO query as to whether you wish to avoid toll roads on the journey (tap)
  6. Wait another 3 seconds as the route is calculated and BINGO you've got a path to follow, visually and auditorily
Not quite rocket science on the operator's part (despite the fact that those amazing satellites are involved!)

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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2007, 04:05:41 PM »
QUOTE
tap, tap, tap...
Is that the Raven or your neighborhood hawk! eek2.gif

I don't know what brand my son uses, but he likes the last one he got, I'll email my Granddaughters! He is as far from a 'rocket scientist' as they come and he claims it's easy to use and gives great directions and warnings about upcoming turns.

As for opinions about which brand is best, you'll probably get positive reports from everyone who has one! My biggest concern would be updating the locations database in these things. Perhaps they are now capable of accessing a 'main-frame' database back at the factory for that kind of stuff. dntknw.gif
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2007, 04:41:17 PM »
jw,

I have had two Gamin's. But, I sold them because after OS 10 and my G5, I could not program routes or way points because Garmin has not fixed the USB software so it will work with a Mac. Since my first Garmin  used a serial port it was easy to connect to my G4 using a serial-USB connector. My second Garmin was USB based and since All Garmin software is Windows based, I could not run it using Virtual PC 6 on my new G5. The problem was the USB and  VPC 7 did not work with a G5 and 2) all the virtualization software I tried, none gave me a clean USB connection between the Garmin and Mac. A year ago Garmin attended MacWorld Expo and promised a fix that allowed Garmin software to work on a Mac by Jan 2007. We are still waiting!

I finally gave up and bought a Tom Tom GO 910 as Dick advised. Like Dick, I am satisfied with it although the mapping software for setting up routs and way points is not as good as Garmin's, it is adequate for all my travel needs. One note of warning - The TomTom software does not work with multi-processor Macs. It will work with all single processor Intel and PPC Macs. However, for multi- CPU Macs, one can program directly from the unit although it is not as convenient as seeing the maps on your monitor screen. Clearly, TomTom will have to resolve this soon since most Macs have multiple processors.

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2007, 04:58:23 PM »
ABD

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Is that the Raven or your neighborhood hawk!


Those nine (count- 'em –9) "taps" are the total "programming" chores, or whatever, required to lay out a path to the nearest village or clear across the country.

Tom

I'm glad I have mine (even though it's the older CD-to-SE card system), but having all the maps the US and Canadian already installed (as in my brother-ion-law's new model) makes set-up a no-brainer, latest and greatest. I assume new maps would be internet downloads.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2007, 07:20:07 PM »
The downloading is the easy part. How do you get that new stuff into the GPS is the critical question. These companies seem to have done a good job of getting Lat/Long data on most businesses and cross streets but I can't believe they can cram all that into the chips installed. And things are still under construction ( new roads, even ) so how do they get that new info in there? And if their mapping and Mac access is no better than MapQuest, fergitit!
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2007, 01:10:25 AM »
In fact, ABD, earlier downloading WAS a problem. That's why they've gone to pre-loading/pre-sale. Piece o' cake.
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. . . and if their mapping and Mac access is no better than MapQuest, fergitit!
But, IMHO it really is much, MUCH, better. TomTom and Mac have far less difficulty cohabiting than Palm and Mac, IME(xperience)

You may on occasion find yourself sailing along and only to discover that something on the ground is just not "right" on the display, but those are really infrequent – in my experience. Far more frequently are the occasions when observers in my vehicle have said . . . "How do they do that?"

I don't recall the name of TomTom's map source. It's not Google.

Since it's a British Company (headquartered in Amsterdam, I believe) HighMac or George may know. I'll find out and post it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2007, 09:23:34 AM »
Well, I gues the updating feature is not too important to some of our more "aged" members...Thinking.gif

OTOH, us younguns have long range plans for the future! laugh.gif

Fortunately, I don't have/need one of these marvels, Judy never lets me have a car with more than half a tank of gas! If I need more than that, she goes with me! And she's a great navigator! Plus, she has all the money for the extra gas! laugh.gif I'm still just the "driver"! flower-smilie.gif
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2007, 10:50:55 AM »
"TomTom" seems like a very strange name for such a gizmo. But, "iPod" has little meaning to it either. Whatever happened to naming things such that the name describes the thing, or what it does??
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2007, 11:45:06 AM »
coolio.gif You mean like "Zuni" doh.gif


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