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« on: March 04, 2007, 12:40:23 PM »
I poked around for a while and could not find anything on this. My clamshell's (300mhz g3) HD died, rather, got killed. Authorities have identified a 14.4 volt cordless drill as the intrument of death. It was dropped on it and yes, I am the same guy  idiot who spilled tea on the keyboard a few weeks ago)

Anyway, it won't erase, or reinstall or anything and the instructions for replacing it look like a BPITA  sad.gif  I am wondering is it worth the trouble?
Could I just get a nice portable usb drive and boot from that?
Should I just get a used laptop and sell this to someone who does this kind of stuff?
 I used this for very basic stuff only and the speed has been more great.
 (thanks to adding  512 mem upgrade recommended here) smile.gif
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2007, 03:02:12 PM »
I'm the most timid Mac owner ever, and I replaced the hard drive in my beige G3. It's scary, but it can be done. I'm sure kelly can supply a link or two for you. He did for me.

It went very smoothly. Just to allay your fears, my "operation" was as follows:

I removed my CD-ROM drive and connected the new hard drive to those cables. I  then copied the stuff I wanted from my old hard drive to the new one. Then I took out the old one, and moved the new one to the hard drive cables. Then I hooked the CD-ROM drive back up.

You can do it! And hard drives are not expensive.

Disregard all of the above if you need a good excuse to buy a new iMac. wink.gif
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2007, 04:30:58 PM »
QUOTE(Gregg @ Mar 4 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]120890[/snapback]
I removed my CD-ROM drive and connected the new hard drive to those cables. I  then copied the stuff I wanted from my old hard drive to the new one. Then I took out the old one, and moved the new one to the hard drive cables. Then I hooked the CD-ROM drive back up.


Replacing hard drives on a Desktop Mac is much easier than doing so on a notebook/laptop [or, I suspect, on an iMac].

Actually, I watched a Quicktime movie about replacing the HD on a MacBook, and it was really simple!  Slide old drive out, remove the 'sled', install sled on new drive, slide it back in!
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2007, 04:42:52 PM »
QUOTE(asbestos @ Mar 4 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]120883[/snapback]
I poked around for a while and could not find anything on this. My clamshell's (300mhz g3) HD died, rather, got killed. Authorities have identified a 14.4 volt cordless drill as the intrument of death. It was dropped on it and yes, I am the same guy  idiot who spilled tea on the keyboard a few weeks ago)

Anyway, it won't erase, or reinstall or anything and the instructions for replacing it look like a BPITA  sad.gif  I am wondering is it worth the trouble?
Could I just get a nice portable usb drive and boot from that?
Should I just get a used laptop and sell this to someone who does this kind of stuff?
 I used this for very basic stuff only and the speed has been more great.
 (thanks to adding  512 mem upgrade recommended here) smile.gif



How to's

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/49.0.0.html
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 04:56:40 PM »
It's always worth it if only for the learning experience. I've found most things inside a mac to be pretty much self evident. The possible exception would be the Quadra 600.
Don't forget to ground yourself by touching the power supply before you touch anything inside. smile.gif

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2007, 06:15:05 PM »
I saw the fix it slideshow before I came here. I jusdt wanted to get a feel for how hard it was. Sometimes the pix make it look hard, sometimes they make it look all to easy.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2007, 06:44:06 PM »
The hardest part was being unsure of myself. It took me two weekends. The first time, I was afraid I'd pull the cables too hard and break something when I went to disconnect the CD-ROM drive. So I stopped, consulted TS again, and worked up the courage to try again the following weekend. I told you I was timid about these things!
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 06:45:20 PM »
QUOTE(asbestos @ Mar 4 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]120910[/snapback]
I saw the fix it slideshow before I came here. I jusdt wanted to get a feel for how hard it was. Sometimes the pix make it look hard, sometimes they make it look all to easy.



Kinda like asking how hard skydiving is ... need a push eek2.gif

It would all depend on your skill set(s) and patience and whether or not the cat thinks the removed parts are good toys ohmy.gif   Tedious more than hard, esp. the 1st time.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 07:50:54 PM »
QUOTE(MarkM @ Mar 4 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]120915[/snapback]
Tedious more than hard, esp. the 1st time.


there will not be a second time

but I am going to order the HDD now.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2007, 01:06:14 AM »
I would invest the money into a new computer from Apple.com. You can get good deals on their refurb section on their site, and you also get a 1 year warranty on their refurbs as well.

Maybe an iMac would suit your needs, and Apple has some good prices on some of their iMac refurbs.

Craigslist.org also has some good sales on apple products, hd's, and ram.

Have fun shopping! flower-smilie.gif  cheer.gif  flower-smilie.gif
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2007, 07:20:05 AM »
QUOTE(asbestos @ Mar 4 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]120920[/snapback]
there will not be a second time

but I am going to order the HDD now.


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Come back for support, if you need it.
Can you get online from another computer, if that's necessary?
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2007, 02:48:49 PM »
You may find the install a bit daunting:

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"The hard drive in the iBook is not end-user, or even dealer/service center, upgradable. Just accessing the hard drive bay is a job involving the removal of over two-dozen screws, hex-nuts, plastic parts, and very small, sensitive, electronic components. If the proper level of anti-static protection is not maintained and the take-apart procedure not properly documented then a successful upgrade is nearly impossible....


http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0814.html

As to booting from an external, that iBook had only USB so firewire is obviously not possible. But you may have one of the few dual-channel USB old models that can boot to an external USB drive in OS 9. The Pismo was the last PB that could do that.

That said, there have been reports lately of USB booting in newer PPC Macs.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?sto...061017084322177
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 07:48:12 AM »
cheer.gif  I did it. a brand new 40gig sits snugly inside. It works and I have osx (panther) installed.  it was not all that hard, but it was not easy. I had only on screw left over.
 >>>>>I Fix It's instructions were great<<<<<
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G3-C.../HD-Replacement

Now I just need a replacement keyboard.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 08:30:08 AM »
Congratulations asbestos. That's a real accomplishment. smile.gif

I've worked on lots of machines and I'd have thought twice on that one. smile.gif
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 12:11:50 PM »
Way to go! clap.gif

Did you remove all hazardous material while you were inside? wink.gif
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