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Offline Gregg

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« on: March 06, 2007, 07:51:38 AM »
Yeah, always been there....

Ever notice when you're making a post, there are two "Add Reply" buttons on the screen. (Not when starting a new thread however...)

I think we should have the folks at Hormel look into this for us. sherlock.gif
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 08:57:15 AM »
Not sure what buttons you are seeing, it may depend on your choice of skins. I do have two "Reply" buttons, but the one on the actual post, will add the entire post as a 'quote' in the 'reply window text box. Have never used that, that I can remember. The other "Reply" button simply opens the 'reply' screen with a completely blank text box. Haven't use that much since we got the "Fastreply" option.

Thus, the "Reply" button on each post is for replying to that one post, so it quotes that one post for you. The 'generic' "Reply" button is for replying to the thread in general, rather than any one post, so you get a blank 'reply' window.

Finally, the "Quote" button on each post allows you to select more than one post to add into a reply.

All this just confuses me, so I just use the neat, compact "Fastreply" window where I can also easily read the post I'm probably replying to. smile.gif Smileis are still available, if you need them, but not in your way otherwise. The formatting tags are so simple, even I can remember them! blush-anim-cl.gif

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2007, 12:21:17 PM »
To clarify, they are on different screens. You click the first one in the thread to start your Reply. You click the second one, below where you compose your Reply, when you're ready to post it. It is a different color... But, perhaps should have been cast as "Post Reply" or something like that.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2007, 02:49:00 PM »
If your talking about two completely different screens ( sounds like the 'view the thread' and the 'compose a reply' screens ) I wouldn't consider the buttons either "identical" or "duplicates". I also have a "Reply" button in my email program, strangely, I manage to keep all the buttons/controls actions separated. doh.gif

However, the only difference in the two buttons on the 'view threads' screen is the icon and the 'pop up text' while hovering the mouse over them. One means "Reply directly about this post" the other has no text pop up and means "Reply about this thread". Other than that, I'm not sure what the confusion is. dntknw.gif
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2007, 03:22:23 PM »
the one that is on the second page, check your address bar, it says =post&do=reply also has a "Preview Post" button.  It's to ask you, "Do I really want to post this, and let me see how it looks"

It's for those of us that can't type, so wee can relook, and for some of us, to rethink whether we really really mean to say what we just said. flower-smilie.gif
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 04:02:02 PM »
QUOTE(Gregg @ Mar 6 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]121119[/snapback]
To clarify, they are on different screens. You click the first one in the thread to start your Reply. You click the second one, below where you compose your Reply, when you're ready to post it. It is a different color... But, perhaps should have been cast as "Post Reply" or something like that.

I'm curious which skin you are enjoying. I'm using "nait...." whatever it is  tongue.gif and on the thread page where I read all the posts the bottom buttons show:

Fast Reply / Reply / New Topic

Here on the reply page, below the "attachment" options, the buttons show:

Add Reply / Preview Post

And all my buttons in this skin are the same color.  eek2.gif

What each button specifically shows is a skin designers choice, whether it makes sense to you and I or not.   wallbash.gif
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2007, 07:19:46 PM »
Wasn't trying to get under anyone's skin. wink2.gif

Offhand, I don't remember the name of the skin I selected. It's probably "Classic" or some other prehistoric vintage. That would fit my profile.

This is Hormel-class confusion, not really truly confusing. unsure.gif
(See the recent spam thread - whatever it was called.)

The two buttons are on different screens*, they have the same name. They most certainly don't have the same function. Seriously, I think that since the function is different, the name should also be different. It's not worth changing; just an observation.

*Actually, the first one shows up on the "second" screen as well, if you use "Fast Reply" - in which case it's really the first screen. If you click the wrong button, then you get to start over on the real second screen. Is everybody confused now? wacko.gif
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2007, 07:55:16 PM »
QUOTE(Gregg @ Mar 6 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]121150[/snapback]
Wasn't trying to get under anyone's skin. wink2.gif

ROFLOL!

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Offhand, I don't remember the name of the skin I selected.

Down at the bottom of the page there's a drop down menu and the name of your skin is the one showing. That's how I know mine is "naitaken" (I just have to check it for the correct spelling). I was curious, because I was gonna switch to your skin choice to look.

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*Actually, the first one shows up on the "second" screen as well, if you use "Fast Reply" - in which case it's really the first screen. If you click the wrong button, then you get to start over on the real second screen. Is everybody confused now? wacko.gif

This is correct. I see the same basic set of buttons under fast reply as I do in the full reply screen. So, I'm thinking this really is the designers choice -- and I agree it's frustrating. I will look if you'll tell me what skin you are using. smile.gif  Just because I'm curious.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 08:24:25 PM »
kimmer, I knew it was "hiding" in plain sight.

TS - of course. If krissel created it, it's good enough for me!

Yes, the buttons (above) are the same in Fast Reply - since the only thing that changes is it opens up the Fast Reply pane on that same page.

I managed to confuse the issue by first making my observation after doing a "Fast Reply" then "claifying" the issue after doing an "Add Reply" (it's not just "Reply" as in your post above)

Maybe the first "Add Reply" should have been named "Slow Reply" to contrast with "Fast Reply". huh.gif

Seriously, "Full Reply" or some four letter word that means "with all the bells and whistles" would do the trick. wink.gif
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2007, 09:23:07 PM »
I haven't a clue as to what you are referring?

What is the problem? I don't see it.

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Are you saying you are confused by the fact that there is an 'Add Reply' button below the Fast Reply window and yet you can still see the 'Add Reply' that is below the last post?

THAT is what's confusing you???

In doing the TS skin, I checked out the text on other skins including the default that comes with the software. Most use "Add Reply" for those buttons. A few only use "Reply" for the under last post section, one uses "Post Reply".  Another skin uses "Multi" for the multiple quote button but most have some sort of "Quote+" text.

Not going to change it. Sorry.   harhar.gif
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2007, 10:20:50 PM »
QUOTE(krissel @ Mar 6 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]121165[/snapback]
Are you saying you are confused by the fact that there is an 'Add Reply' button below the Fast Reply window and yet you can still see the 'Add Reply' that is below the last post?

THAT is what's confusing you???
If I understood Gregg, he finds it odd that you click "Add Reply" at the bottom of the thread (not talking about the fast reply button), and that opens the reply window. Then when you want to post your reply you click a button that also says "add reply". If you throw in the fast reply box, then you have 3 buttons that say the same thing, but don't exactly mean the same thing.

It's the norm for most skins, but that doesn't mean it isn't confusing -- or even the right way to do things. wink.gif

The skin I use uses "Reply" and "Add Reply" -- which is a tad less confusing.

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In doing the TS skin, I checked out the text on other skins including the default that comes with the software. Most use "Add Reply" for those buttons.

See, it's IPB's fault. HAHAHA

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Not going to change it. Sorry.   harhar.gif

Gregg did say ... If krissel created it, it's good enough for me!

Wonder what would happen if we had to translate all our buttons into say, Japanese?  huh.gif  tongue.gif
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2007, 02:40:59 AM »
Would it be any clearer if the popup (hold your cursor over the middle button) actually says "Reply to this topic" ?


It does now.

Not sure if OS 9 browsers have that function.

If not, it's time.  smile.gif
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 07:16:56 AM »
People! (It's not time.) Get a Clue! Am I ever serious? (ok, once) Do you not understand the reference to Hormel? Sheesh!

I am not confused. Picky, but not confused!

P.S. I meant to say... Yes, kimmer, you nailed it. That's 100% on target.  - What she said.... rolleyes.gif

Leaving the observation deck now, to make room for someone else....
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 09:22:37 PM »
I dunno! I want to Reply to a single post or to the thread, so I click the "Reply" or the "Fast Reply" button. After creating my "reply" I am then given the option of "Adding" it or just canceling the whole operation. dntknw.gif Sorry, seems obvious to me. But I'm not know for logical thinking! tongue.gif
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 10:05:17 PM »
So, I spent over an hour looking in the code/macros of the software to find where to add a text description popup...because someone is just picky, not serious...

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If the reference to Hormel means this thread was started as Spam, well, then I agree.




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