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« on: April 15, 2007, 01:46:58 AM »
It will cost you more:

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That's because the Microsoft agreement states that anyone running Parallels can't use the $199 basic or the $239 premium edition of Vista. Instead, they have to buy the $299 business version or the $399 ultimate version of the long-anticipated OS. MIcrosoft says the move was necessary because of security issues with virtualization technology. A security analyst showed last year that, in theory, the kind of virtualization that Intel and AMD processors allow could be used to run malicious software programs alongside another operating system, creating the potential for damage.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ACMAC/TPStory//

I'm sure this will effect a lot of you guys!   biggrin.gif
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 09:02:41 AM »
QUOTE(gunug @ Apr 15 2007, 01:46 AM) [snapback]124515[/snapback]
It will cost you more:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ACMAC/TPStory//

I'm sure this will effect a lot of you guys!   biggrin.gif



Yeah this has been known for quite some time.  However, any version will work if you, ummm.... don't care what the EULA says.

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 01:12:18 PM »
Better off just running Windows XP IMO. smile.gif
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 06:09:39 PM »
kelly,

How do I get a legit copy of Windows XP?

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2007, 06:27:22 PM »
You have to buy this OEM version with a piece of hardware. smile.gif

Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack - OEM $90

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116056

I bought it along with a Video Adapter Cable a couple years ago.

There may be better deals. I don't know.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2007, 07:29:14 PM »
According to the "Specifications":

"Qualifying proof of purchase must be recent receipts showing the purchase of a mother board, hard drive, RAM and a CPU.  The components can be on multiple receipts; not necessarily all on one receipt nor on the same receipt as the qualifying Windows XP/Office 2003 that you purchased."

Does that mean I also have to buy a computer? That would really up the price!

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2007, 07:56:11 PM »
I didn't. smile.gif
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2007, 12:13:05 AM »
I got my OEM version of XP Home wit SP2 from Software Blowouts in Feb. for $82 + shipping.  They said it would be sent with a piece of hardware but nothing else was in the pkg.  Was really nervous but it installed w/o a hitch using BootCamp.   cheer.gif
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 12:10:45 PM »
QUOTE( @ Apr 15 2007, 07:46 AM) [snapback]124515[/snapback]
That's because the Microsoft agreement states that anyone running Parallels can't use the $199 basic or the $239 premium edition of Vista. Instead, they have to buy the $299 business version or the $399 ultimate version of the long-anticipated OS.

Ok... but they are talking about a virtualization software (like Parallels).
But this doesn't count if you use it with Bootcamp I guess, or is Boothcamp also considered virtualization?
Cause, and I might be wrong here, I always assumed that Boothcamp provides you with a clean startup from the Vista software?

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 05:26:46 PM »
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I always assumed that Bootcamp provides you with a clean startup from the Vista software?
According to Apple, you're pretty much on your own if you want to run any version of Windows. Apple does not supply any version, any time. That's a MS product. They ( MS ) claim you gotta pay them for the 'privilege' of destroying your security, regardless of where you run the OS.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2007, 05:35:26 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Apr 16 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]124618[/snapback]
According to Apple, you're pretty much on your own if you want to run any version of Windows. Apple does not supply any version, any time. That's a MS product. They ( MS ) claim you gotta pay them for the 'privilege' of destroying your security, regardless of where you run the OS.



Uhhmmm... ok.

Back to the question... Yes Bootcamp is a stand alone Windows installation.  If you install Windows in Bootcamp, you are just turning your mac into a PC for better or worse, and the licensing issue is moot since you are not running in virtualization.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2007, 06:45:40 PM »
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licensing issue is moot since you are not running in virtualization.
Might be a for the original question, but Bootcamp still requires buying a Windows OS and that still requires a 'license', technically. wink.gif Right? And that was in reply to Marcel's statement. My point is that Bootcamp is not a Windows 'instalation', it's very basically a way to tell the computer to use the Windows installation as the Start up OS. But no Windows OS comes on the Mac you buy. Bootcamp, itself, is a downloaded app, at least until Leopard is released.

The text concerning "Vista" was not included in earlier versions of Windows, because Microsofts lawyers didn't consider VPC to be much of a market. With the switch to Intel cpu's, I think they can see the possibility of people actually being able to compare Windows and OS X on the same machine. eek2.gif Of course, they want as much money as they can bilk/milk out of the new OS, also. After all, it's taken a lot of work to make it as bad as it is! All those geeks have to be paid! tongue.gif
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 07:15:00 PM »
I think you misunderstood Marcel's question.... he was still asking about the virtualization requirement of Vista... and yes of course you have to pay for any version of Windows you decide to install.

Also... I think what Microsoft is really worried about is the fact that virtualization makes it possible to literally run many instances of Windows on not only one machine, but many.  You can literally put your Windows image on a flash drive and carry it around and run it on multiple machines simultaneously without paying for multiple licenses.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2007, 10:38:46 PM »
this is bull
they just want you to buy the more expensive OS because you're not buying it preinstalled on a computer

plus XP's more stable anyway
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2007, 01:25:04 PM »
QUOTE(swhitset @ Apr 17 2007, 01:15 AM) [snapback]124628[/snapback]
I think you misunderstood Marcel's question....

Hehehe... guys guys.... wink.gif
But yes... I did wondered if using Boothcamp would still mean you still have to buy the more expensive versions from Vista yes wink.gif
For me it sounds interesting since running Vista (or XP.. doesn't matter) would give me a easy and cheaper way of checking websites on a windows browser.
I wouldn't connect it to the internet but it would just be good... and still cheaper then buying a standalone pc wink.gif

So there yes, it answered my question.

Thanks Steve and Jim wink.gif

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