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« on: January 25, 2003, 10:07:00 AM »
I've upgraded to Mac OS 9.2.3 in the course of upgrading to Appleworks 6.

Now my Apple Video Player shows only a "movie projector" icon in the Controls window, and no window at all for viewing.

Previously, up through OS 8.6, AVP showed 2 windows, one for displaying the pic, and the other controls for a movie projector, VCR, and TV monitor.  Now there is only the movie projector icon.

Does anyone know what happened here?  I'm ready to re-install OS 8.6.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2003, 11:59:00 PM »
Hi Lorraine. Other than that, how's it going.  

Slight correction. I think it only goes up to 9.2.2

That's some old software. I haven't tried it with any OS 9 version.

I only went up to OS 8.6 on my Performa 6320 that has it.

For sure you still have the Video Startup Extension in your Extension folder?

Maybe try trashing Video Player Preferences and Restarting.

What did you have before the Appleworks Update? OS 9.1 ? And it worked then?
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2003, 12:38:00 PM »
Thanks, Kelly.  I had 8.6 before this, and AVP worked well.  I wanted AppleWorks 6, but purchased the OS 9 CD on eBay, because it was cheaper than AW 6 new.  So naturally, I went ahead and installed the OS 9, then upgraded to 9.1.  That is when I lost the AVP -- or rather, it morphed into the present problem -- so I went ahead and upgraded to 9.2.1 (I just looked at it, that is what I installed).  No help.

I went to the Apple support website, found nothing of help, but I downloaded an upgrade to the AVP -- same story.  No viewing window at all, and just the movie projector icon.

I got a little anxious, and re-installed the 9.0 from scratch, as this was an iMac CD.  But the instructions seemed fine, and everything else is working just fine (at least everything I checked).

Now, I'm not sure if I have duplicated too many files from the install-re-install actions, so I've ordered a copy of Norton utilities to clean it up ($11.50 + $5 S&H on eBay for a brand new box, but it is the 1.0, not the 2.0).

But my REAL temptation is to re-install 8.6!  AVP worked fine then.  Or even 8.0, which came with my G3.  One more question --

If I install InterView 2.0, would that obviate the whole problem?  I mean, will I still need AVP?  Or does it include it's own player application?

Thanks again,
Lorraine
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2003, 12:59:00 PM »
Simplest answer? Go back to OS 8.6  

Unless you have things you really like about OS 9.x

Interview is similar. Better in some ways.

I've found Strata Video Shop that comes with it to be kind of buggy though.

That Systemworks 1.0 is good. Works great with OS 8.6

If you use it with OS 9.x you'll want to Update it to 6.0.3

That's a whole 'nother matter though.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2003, 01:07:00 PM »
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Interview is similar. Better in some ways.


Okay, do you mean similar to AVP?  So that I won't need AVP at all?  In that case, I would not bother going back to OS 8.6.

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I've found Strata Video Shop that comes with it to be kind of buggy though.


Will my Adobe Photoshop LE 4.0 still work on InterView, if I don't want to bother with Strata?

Thanks again,
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2003, 01:12:00 PM »
With Interview you don't need Apple Video Player.  

Pretty sure you will need Strata to make it work.

http://eshop.macsales.com/Item_DealMac.cfm...tem=XLRUSBIVOSX

I don't think that Adobe Photoshop LE 4.0 will work with it.

Did that work with Video Player?
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2003, 08:25:00 PM »
Yes, Adobe Photoshop worked great with AVP.  The only time I had a problem was when I switched to a smaller, older monitor, when my newer one broke down, before I replaced it.  I couldn't get a picture on the display window, but that was corrected by reducing the number of colors (from millions to thousands, I believe).  But I still got the display window & all three icons in the controls window.

So my choices are these:  Go back to OS 8.6 & continue using AVP & (my beloved) Adobe Photoshop; or stay with OS 9.2, install Interview and learn to use Strata?  If "simpler is better" (Occam's razor) then the choice is clear.  Wish I knew for sure, though!  (Do we ever??)

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2003, 09:59:00 PM »
Not sure what to say Lorraine.  

You know what you had. You can get that back.

The new is unknown. You might give the new a try and see how it goes.

That's one reason I've always favored Partitions.

Have OS 8.6 on one and OS 9.x on the other.

Do different things in either.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2003, 08:11:00 PM »
Okay, now you said the magic word:  "Partition"!  I had actually thought I should have done something like that.  I looked it up in the Mac OS 8 Bible (Lon Poole) but I was put off when it said I had to back up all my files before partitioning.  

I have tons of photos that I have pulled off my camcorder (freeze-frames), and they are just sitting around waiting for me to retire and do something with them (like putting them together, alterations, and printing).

If I add the Performa as a second hard drive, I do not need to back up my docs, right?  But I cannot partition my G3 drive without backing up everything first, right?
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2003, 10:34:00 PM »
Yes. To Partition will wipe everything on your drive.  

You should always have anything you value backed up one way or another.

Put on another drive, burned to CDs, whatever.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2003, 06:16:00 AM »
Okay, thanks again.  

If I pull pix from a performance on my camcorder, I may have 60-70 PICT files sitting on my desktop.  Then I shovel them all into a new folder.  I have to go through them & pick out the ones that are good, and spend hours manipulating them before they are ready for printing.  The main folder of all these is almost 2 GB!!  I can't buy that many zip disks.

The good news is -- I have the original recordings on my camcorder tapes -- so I actually have the "backup" I need. PLUS, I always back up the tape onto a VHS tape.  Worst case scenario, I'd have to go through & pull the pix off again.

My thought now is that I'll transfer all these to my new (old) hard drive (Performa) and then I can go ahead with partitioning.  

By the by, doesn't ANYONE ELSE use Apple Video Player???  Can I really be the only one on this entire forum???  This is unbelievable!!

Thanks again for all your help, always!
Lorraine
 
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2003, 11:50:00 PM »
Apple Video Player is pretty old stuff Lorraine.  

More properly you should ask who's using iMovie, iDVD.

Those programs are to Video Player what Jets are to Bi-Planes.

You'll see when you get that new computer.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2003, 12:35:00 PM »
For your future reference.  

MacInTouch Reader Reports: Digitizing Video

http://www.macintouch.com/digitizingvideo.html
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2003, 02:20:00 PM »
Hoo-boy!  Are those the New Jersey Bi-Planes?  

Well, this is a real rude awakening -- to discover that my AVP is out-dated already???  Good flord.  I guess that is why it is no longer available in 9.x!

Okay, then why bother, I guess.

Should I look into getting iMovie on my G3?  Or it won't supprt it?  What is next???
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2003, 07:32:00 PM »
iMovie will run on your G3 but I don't think it would work well.

If what you've had is ok for you then it's worth it.

I think you should follow up on your Backup and Partition.

iMovie really comes into it's own on a newer machine.

You import video by Firewire from a Video Camera and edit it from there.

That's in your future.
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