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Offline krissel

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« on: June 27, 2007, 01:06:31 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 09:31:18 AM »
Heard an interview of him this morning on NPR <Morning Edition: iPhone Review>, probably also on their site. His biggest complaint was that one could not navigate between many tasks/apps without going all the way back to "Home" ( with the only 'button' that's on all screens ). Also, it can take up to six button pushes just to get to the point of making a call. That may include making a single push for a number in your address book, he didn't explain exactly what he meant. That could mean it might be just as simple to dial the 7 digits. dntknw.gif

He also calls the keyboard buttons tricky to use and needing practice. I'm not sure that Blackberry keys are any easier to hit correctly. Nor am I likely to make a physical comparison! smile.gif

He did mention the tiny bulge on the headphone cable. That thing is amazingly small ( watch the video )! It contains another microphone for speaking on the phone and a switch that allows answering a call or forwarding it to voice mail. He seemed to like that feature.

His biggest complaint was that Apple chose to team up with AT&T. He claims that when forced to use AT&T's non-WIFI internet connection, one will long for the days of dial up! And he says the coverage area, even for that lackluster use is not nearly as wide spread as the ads would suggest.

Note the 7 factors you need to consider before lining up to buy one. Speaking of 'lining up', NPR had this report yesterday, "prospective iPhone owners are already lining up in front of the Apple store in downtown Manhattan". Wonder if our friend Parker is there yet! smile.gif
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 01:17:03 PM »
AT&T uses an old-generation data network called EDGE, which is painfully, painfully slow for carrying network traffic. Many people were disappointed to learn that the iPhone won't do 3G networking, which allows cell phones to have high-speed Internet access.

I suspect the reason for this is that of all the carriers, only Cingular, which has the old-gen data tech, was willing to do the work it required to make the iPhone work. Other carriers refused to take the iPhone because some of the really cool stuff the iPhone does, like show all your voice mail in a list with times and let you skip around in the voice mail and play the messages in whatever order you like, require that the cell phone carrier do some pretty hefty reprogramming at their end.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 02:29:44 PM »
The other carriers may end up regretting not trusting Apple. I think, though, we may have to wait for all the hype to die down and let the subscriber reviews come in.

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2007, 04:07:01 PM »
While everyone agrees that EDGE is slow, I think I've heard rumors, if not actual facts that the newer protocols can be addressed with changes in the software ( or ROM? ) in the iPhone. I would hope that Apple hasn't nailed its feet to the old technology, anyway. After all, if they can make such a smooth switch from PPC to Intel... smile.gif

And I would also hope they develop a way of having the battery changeable by the user, ASAP. Sending in and being without an iPod for a few days is no big deal, but not having your cell phone?! eek2.gif I suspect that change will soon be available via an Apple or AT&T store, at least. dntknw.gif But even that is not extremely convenient.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 05:10:22 PM »
I guess Pogue didn't test Safari on the AT&T's iPhone Pages.




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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 09:59:41 PM »
Works fine on FF. While Safari used to be the most CSS compatible browser around, it can sometimes be too finicky about html, xhtml, javascript, CSS, etc. Browsers should strive to display exactly what the source says but allow minor, non-standard code to show as intended or as the majority of other browsers display it. It's a tricky balancing act and one that certain MS browsers simply ignore! smile.gif It will be even more interesting to see how that page displays on the iPhone! wallbash.gif
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 01:38:56 AM »
According to some reviews the use of Wireless connectivity is what they are depending on to alleviate the lack of 3G.  ATT is expanding its 3G coverage gradually so I would expect a future version of the iPhone will be using that mode as it becomes more widely available. It will be interesting to see what the overseas versions of the iPhone will have as features.  Thinking.gif
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2007, 08:42:50 AM »
iPhone Battery Replacement

"The program cost is $85.95 per unit". Yikes  WOW.gif

Judging by this take apart of the iPhone (the battery is soldered to the logic board) it doesn't look like the battery will be customer installable.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2007, 09:08:42 AM »
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it doesn't look like the battery will be customer installable.
No problem. I have two soldering irons, quality ( electrical ) solder, etc. Just replaced a busted fan in a cheap external drive housing by removing/replacing the connector with a housing that holds a less than useful 10 GB drive. smile.gif On the other hand, I don't even have an iPod, much less a $600 one that also has a browser and cell phone! blush-anim-cl.gif However, with the recent loss of one of our local NPR 'channels', I've been inclined to purchasing an iPod...

Back to the battery thing, I find it hard to believe that there is not enough margin in this hardware to justify the lack of a replaceable battery. But I'm sure his Steveness has a perfectly valid reason. After all, he can make no mistake! notworthy.gif smile.gif
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2007, 07:47:59 PM »
Both my daughter on her husband were planning on getting iPhones but the non-replaceable battery was the deal breaker. sad.gif

They are attorneys that frequently travel and need to always have a spare phone battery on hand.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2007, 08:28:48 PM »
Actually, there is a 'battery replacement' program available for a small fee. I think you can get the deal from both AT&T and Apple. But it costs $ 499 to $599 and requires a two year contract...Thinking.gif
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2007, 09:15:20 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Jul 1 2007, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, there is a 'battery replacement' program available for a small fee. I think you can get the deal from both AT&T and Apple. But it costs $ 499 to $599 and requires a two year contract...Thinking.gif


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