After installing DVR in DA...

[ADSR]

Hi,


Install the pioneer 112 d in the DA...

Can see it whith "about this mac" and as a choice in Toast. (Don't yet tryed to burn a dvd )

When i insert  a cd in it ,.... can't see it on the desktop....? in my Lacie cd burner no problem

Download and install patchburn but it's the same thing, what could be wrong , is there anything else

i can do?


Thanks


GR

[ADSR]

Hi,

Even inserting a commercial dvd...nothing on the desktop.

Is there a way to test or it's a bad unit...?


Thanks


GR

[gunug]

Sorry for my lack of understanding but is this installed inside your computer itself or in an external case?  Are the jumpers set in keeping with the nature of the cable (Standard with no "cut out" or void in the cable matrix or with one)?  Is it the master or the slave on a master/slave cable; if it is newer or has different features and is on a master/slave cable it should be set as master in order for the Pioneer 112D to properly handle such features with it's built in controller.  You can probably easily set a hard drive as slave in this situation and have it work (perhaps with a slower access).

[ADSR]

Replaced the internal cd burner whithe the pioneer dvr 112d in the DA.

It's set master whith one  jumper.

Can be seen whith "about this computer" and in Toast but apparently can't read a cd or dvd

When inserting a blank dvd ...Disk info in Toast says no disk !

I'm afraid it's a bad one... what other test can i do ?

Thanks


GR

[bil207]

After you insert a disk open "Disk Utility" and see if it appears there.

Also, Try looking at the settings for "CDs &DVDs" in System Preferences and see what they are set to do when you insert a blank disk.

[ADSR]

QUOTE(bil207 @ Aug 12 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

After you insert a disk open "Disk Utility" and see if it appears there.

Also, Try looking at the settings for "CDs &DVDs" in System Preferences and see what they are set to do when you insert a blank disk.

Can't see nothing either on disk utility or cd&dvd...the eject function from the keyboard works but it seems that 's the only one


Anything else to do..?


Thanks

GR

[gunug]

I think I came close to this same problem but got around it because the PC DVD burner I was trying out had a close "brother" that was an Apple version.  The system would burn to it with Toast thinking it was the Apple version but I think I had problems booting the OS 10.4 system disk on it so it was only a limited success!  I considered at the time trying to "flash" the drive with an Apple version flash but I thought better of it (that way lies madness) and I salvaged a Panasonic DVD drive out of a way dead Apple iMAC G4 and that worked perfectly!  

I note that there doesn't seem to be an Apple version of this drive but only a SATA version.  When you tried Patchburn did you follow the instructions fairly carefully; I had a problem the first time I tried it because I thought I should do something that wasn't really what the intructions meant for me to do!  

Sorry I'm not more help!  Good luck with this!

[Paddy]

Actually, Gunug, these drives work just fine in Macs - OWC sells them and there are a number of reports at xlr8yourmac.com from those who have installed them with no problems.

Check out the Drive Compatibility Database at xl8yourmac - and put the following in the search boxes: Type of Drive: DVD+R/RW + DVD-R/RW, Brand: Pioneer, Model: DVR-112D. Don't bother with any of the other boxes if you want the most complete range of responses.

You do NOT need Patchburn with OS 10.4 - that's only required for OS 10.3. (I don't know if removing it will make any difference - it shouldn't, but it's worth a try)

You could try cable select as a jumper setting. It's puzzling however that it can be seen some ways but not other - which to me would indicate that the jumper setting is not an issue, as one wouldn't expect to see it at all if the jumper setting was incorrect.

[krissel]

First make sure you are using the right DVD blank media. My burner and Toast will only use DVD-R.  Not sure what your burner will support or your version of Toast.

Try this:

Open Toast (it is Toast 5 or above, yes?). Don't put in the blank disc yet. Hold down the option key while clicking on the 'Other" icon. Drag down to DVD.  Click on "New DVD" in bottom left of window. Highlight it and give it a name. Now copy the Video_TS and Audio_TS files from your DVD movie to the Toast window. Then click Burn. A window will pop up asking for a blank disc. Now put the blank disc in. If all is OK you will get another window asking for burn speed. Be sure to make it one that your burner can handle. Click OK and let it do its thing. Verify if you wish.

See if that works.

[ADSR]

Hi,


Don't know how to remove patchburn...upload what the advanced menu tell.


Tryed Krissel solution whith a Fudji dvd -R but  Toast always ask to insert a recordable disk...


No cd or dvd inserted can be seen on the desktop


Maybe it's a PC unit and needs a flashing..?


Don't know what to do ...maybe buy another that really works but which one...(i read a lot before buying this one)

Thanks very much

GR[attachment=533:112D.jpg]

[krissel]

When you insert a blank disc you will not see anything on the desktop until it is burned with Toast. I often get a message that I have an unsupported burner but if I follow the steps exactly as described above I can get around it and burn with Toast. I personally haven't used Patchburn since Toast works for me. I use MPlayer for playing DVDs.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ackage_id=72964

If you insert a known good CD  or DVD does it show up?

If not, go into System preferences and CD/DVDs. Be sure the drop down choices don't say 'Ignore".

Also click on desktop to get to Finder. Go to Finder Preferences/General... be sure that the box for showing CDs, DVDs, etc. on the desktop is checked.

[ADSR]

If you insert a known good CD or DVD does it show up?.

Was not clear...talking about a burned cd or commercial DVD ...don't show up on the desktop.


If not, go into System preferences and CD/DVDs. Be sure the drop down choices don't say 'Ignore".

Also click on desktop to get to Finder. Go to Finder Preferences/General... be sure that the box for showing CDs, DVDs, etc. on the desktop is checked.

Everyrthing's ok about these choices...

What else can i do ...?

If  i buy another one which one surely works..?

Thanks for your help


GR

[krissel]

When you went through the steps to try to burn from Toast and Toast asked for a recordable disc, what happened when you put one in? It should have paused for a couple seconds then a window with "waiting for writer". Did you get that or anything else?

Also, when you put in a known commercial or prerecorded disc can you hear the disc spin up? If so, I'm wondering if your drive has a bad laser .

Do you at least see lights flashing?

[krissel]

I've been researching this more.  This particular drive is recommended by many places and I've read a couple dozen reports from people who have put these into old and new Macs successfully. Some had trouble with the master/slave situation and Master should be the correct one for your DA as long as it is on the secondary IDE channel and not on the main drive channel.

I did find several mentions that the drive was very slow at mounting discs. Have you waited long enough for them to mount?

Also found some System Profliler reports from people using 10.4 and yours should be similar. Note that some have newer firmware than your and there is a very recent one but you can't upgrade the firmware from your Mac. You would have to either put it into a PC or an Intel Mac running Windows.

QUOTE

(Apple system profiler info)
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:Firmware Revision: 1.15
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported)
Profile Path: None
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO

QUOTE

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:
Firmware Revision: 1.15
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Vendor Supported)
Profile Path: /Library/DiscRecording/DeviceProfiles/PatchBurn- pioneerdvdrwdvr112d.drprofile
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO

QUOTE

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:
Firmware Revision: 1.09
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported)
Profile Path: None
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO

Found this Terminal command for forcing CDs to mount:

sudo mount -f -t ufs


Also came across a suggestion to boot into Open Firmware to check the physical status of the drive:

Booting into open firmware (hold apple+option+O+F on boot) and when you get the white screen of text, insert a CD. (at this point we have isolated the hardware alone, no software is playing into this test) If THAT ejects the disk, the hardware is not recognizing the disk and is defective. If it happens to keep it, type eject cd to eject the disc and try a DVD. shut-down to shut down the computer after you're done testing.

(You may have to put the CD into the drive first, then restart into Open Firmware)

Apple support thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5007308

Latest firmware:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/S...px?DriveId=1426

Special cable for fast recording:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/p...6392579,00.html

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Lastly, do you have an external FW case you can put this drive into? That would be one way to check if the interior cabling/jumpers, etc. are causing any problems. My DVD burner is an external FW.

If all this fails, I'd send it in for a replacement.

[ADSR]

QUOTE(krissel @ Aug 15 2007, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

When you went through the steps to try to burn from Toast and Toast asked for a recordable disc, what happened when you put one in? It should have paused for a couple seconds then a window with "waiting for writer". Did you get that or anything else?

When i put a recordable disk Toast ask again  for a recordable disk....

Also, when you put in a known commercial or prerecorded disc can you hear the disc spin up? If so, I'm wondering if your drive has a bad laser .

No spin

Do you at least see lights flashing?

No flash


Tryed open firmware boot and the dvd was ejected at boot..

Tryed an external enclosure...nothing better.....gonna send it back!

Wich working one could i get  whithout all these firmware problem ... dvr 108 ?

Thanks very much for all your search and suggestions

GR