Author Topic: Firefox versus Safari (Read 7935 times)

Frances144 · « **on:** December 13, 2007, 06:22:20 AM »

Any thoughts. I have just converted to Firefox to give it a go.

Got a lovely app that let me have a Christmassy theme to it.

Anyone got the Mail one? Thunderbird?

I think I am quite impressed, actually.

Fx

dolphin · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2007, 07:16:21 AM »

I like Firefox. It is stable...not quirky at all. Lots of choices how you want to set it up. Lots of TSers use it. I'm sure others will stop by and let you know. I don't use Thunderbird, but m'lady does and she seems to like it. Seems to be very user friendly also.

Highmac · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2007, 07:24:21 AM »

Hi Frances - been using FF for a while now as my main browser. The only extra I've added is Adblock, mainly because some of the ads on the MacFormat forum made the site almost unusable for me.... now it's quite reasonable, though still not as fast as TeeEss.

I tend to use it only on sites where the ads slow loading to a crawl. Adblock is flexible and can be disabled for any site where you actually want or don't mind the extras.

Paddy · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2007, 07:28:56 AM »

I use both Safari and FF. I usually have both open - depends what I'm doing. There are some sites that simply don't work in Safari (usually ones requiring user input; retail/airline etc.) and for those, FF usually does the trick.

Frances144 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2007, 07:38:37 AM »

Thanks, guys. I am happy with Firefox but I have just taken Thunderbird off for the simple reason that it will not let you easily import your existing Address Book or older messages from Mail that you had been keeping.I do use my Mail app like a small filing cabinet of useful messages and if I can't import them lock stock and barrel then Thunderbird is no use to me. I did like, however, the way you could sort messages by attachments. Quite often I wonder in Mail whether this message has the attachment I am looking for and there is no little paperclip (like in Outlook Express) and you have to trawl through masses of stuff for one thing.
Fx

Oooh, I take that back. I have found the attachment paperclip. Happy happy happy

sandyman · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2007, 08:10:02 AM »

Frances

FF wins hands down for me. I been using it for years now. Stable, secure and extensible. The fact that it's multi platform also helps.

My favourite extensions are

1) Adblock, as it removes most of the annoying c**p on the Web
2) Customize Google as it helps prevent Google building a profile of me
3) Browsersync, keeps my bookmarks synchronised over multiple computers and OS's

Sandy

chriskleeman · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2007, 08:22:18 AM »

Hi Frances,

I use SeaMonkey, another Mozilla product, which is an "all in one" program with both a browser and mail function. Haven't tried Thunderbird, but I really prefer SeaMonkey's mail program to any I've used.

I also use Firefox as my secondary browser if there's a site that SeaMonkey has trouble with.

I am not a great fan of Safari, I prefer the feel of the Mozilla products.

I also use Opera from time to time, it seems to be greatly improved as of late.

Chris K

Jack W · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2007, 09:11:56 AM »

Frances,

I use firefox 2.0.0.11 the vast majority of the time. But I keep Safari on hand for occasional use.

The extensions I use are:
Adblock Plus, Anonymouser, CustomizeGoogle, Fasterfox, Flashblock, FlashGot,NoScript, UserAgentSwitcher, NukeAnythingEnhanced and Stealthier.

Probably too many.

I like firefox because you can really customize t.

- Jack

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2007, 09:56:18 AM »

Another FF user here. I also like AdBlock, FlashBlock, NoScript, and a few other ones. But I sometimes use Safari when it is too difficult to figure out why FF won't access a site, usually because I have it nailed shut from so much 'stuff.' And I much prefer Safari's use of the System graphics for buttons, lists, etc.

Still use Eudora for email, haven't been tempted to use anything else. It works, I know how to use it, so does my wife, etc.

No matter what browser you use, I highly recommend 1PassWord for entering and storing your personal info and passwords.

BTW, I think you can get 1PassWord free for a while!

And I wouldn't run an email program without SPAMsieve!

As for importing address books, etc., you may have to work at it from the other end. In other words, you may have to search for a way to export that info from your current app in a form that can be used by the new one. Don't know what export capabilities Mail has.

I guess the point is that all these programs have reached a level of maturity that they seldom crash, corrupt your data, etc. So, it comes down to using what you like after making sure they do things the way you want.

kimmer · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2007, 11:30:37 AM »

FF is my browser of choice, followed by Camino. I use Safari when I find a site that won't play nice with FF or Camino.

The only add on I use with FF is AdBlock. I found all the others blocked too much stuff and I was spending half my net time approving things at site.

Like ABD, I use Eudora for mail. I used Thunderbird for a year or so (mainly because it integrated with the Linux laptop we used), but I finally said to heck with it and went back to Eudora. I know I was able to pull in my addy book and a few things -- but at this point I don't remember how I did it. Sorry.

QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Dec 13 2007, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No matter what browser you use, I highly recommend 1PassWord for entering and storing your personal info and passwords.

BTW, I think you can get 1PassWord free for a while!

I second, third and fourth this!

MamaMoose · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2007, 11:47:54 AM »

I too am a dedicated FF user. To me it beats other browsers hands down. I use a lrge number of add-ons: Adblock, Amazing Media Browser, Answer,
Aut cpy, Download Manager tweak, DownThemAll, Flashgot, Google Toolbar for FireFox, Wisz RSS News Reader, Yahoo Toolbar, etc. I have to keep Safari as it si the only way when I try to access the internet from say an e-mail URL that I can tell the system that my primary browser is FF!

MamaMoose

krissel · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2007, 10:16:50 PM »

Camino. Then BonEcho (optimized FF for G4).

Frances said:

QUOTE

Quite often I wonder in Mail whether this message has the attachment I am looking for and there is no little paperclip (like in Outlook Express) and you have to trawl through masses of stuff for one thing.

Mail has a paperclip for attachments and you can sort the list to show messages with them. Or did you mean something else?

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2007, 03:21:10 PM »

QUOTE("Frances")

Oooh, I take that back. I have found the attachment paperclip. Happy happy happy

What part of "Oooh" did you not understand?!

Gregg · « **Reply #13 on:** December 15, 2007, 08:36:22 PM »

QUOTE(Paddy @ Dec 13 2007, 07:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There are some sites that simply don't work in Safari (usually ones requiring user input; retail/airline etc.)

That's sad.

With an update to the OS, why didn't they fix the browser?

Let's see...
Firefox
Camino
Sea Monkey
BonEcho
...
iCab too?

Did I miss any? With all that competition, you'd think they'd all be trying to do it better than the rest of 'em.

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2007, 09:23:10 PM »

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why didn't they fix the browser

Because the browser is not what's broken. It's the site's nonstandard use of html, javascript, etc. But they could have made a 'quirks' mode in Safari (which doesn't have one, AFAIK). But that can be a never ending quest to make it work with an almost infinite ways site builders create trash...

When FF doesn't work for me, it's usually because I have it too tightly protected against ads, flash, javascript, etc. It's easier to simply startup Safari for that one site.

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Author Topic: Firefox versus Safari (Read 7935 times)

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