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Do you think it is wrong for Apple to include Safari in their PC Software Update, even if the user never installed it before?

"Yes, it is wrong; Apple is 'pushing' Safari"
9 (39.1%)
"No, Apple is not doing anything wrong"
5 (21.7%)
"I really don't give a "whoot" about the problems of PC users... that's why I bought/use a Mac!"
9 (39.1%)

Total Members Voted: 20

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Offline Mayo

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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2008, 01:54:53 PM »


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Are you suggesting that it should not be an option on TS?


No, it's not that big of a deal... I'm just talking about conventional usage. Hyperlinks are often in color (with blue being the original default if I'm not mistaken...) but there is more variety on the Web these days, no doubt about it...

But at TS the default hyperlink is underlined black type, so underlining something here that is not a hyperlink can be misleading; I have clicked on more than one underlined word and gone nowhere fast... Using italics or underlining are the standard ways to emphasize a word or phrase in a sentence, but underlining on the Web has generally been reserved for hyperlinks.
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2008, 10:56:12 PM »
I agree that the way our board's software displays a link is confusing. The underline was 'standard' for many years. And the 'normal' color was bluish purplish. I suppose people got tired of have garish, distracting colors on their sites. And I detest underlining anyway as it usually destroys the descenders of several lower case letters making reading harder. When all we had were typewriters, underlining was one of the few options for emphasizing a word. But the typewriter usually placed the line well below the actual letters so it was still easy to see the descenders of g, j, p, q and y. With computers, we now have easily read italics and bold (and even both if needed) methods to attract attention to some text

I have a Typinator abbreviation ( . t s l, without the spaces ) that creates a dummy link here that use red text and sticks a "<" and a ">" at each end. But that's just my 'solution.'
Thusly: <[ url=TheURL ][ color=red ][ b ]linkText[ /b ][ /color ][ /url ]>
Again, without the spaces seen above. I've previously copied the url and it's sitting in my Clip Board so I double-click the 'word' "TheURL" and paste it there. And I usually have already typed the text that I'll "Cut and Paste" by double-clicking the word "linkText." What did we do without these kind of little apps?! clap.gif They are really made for us slow, two/three-finger 'typists!' blush-anim-cl.gif
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2008, 11:27:32 PM »
It is actually the skins that determine whether the links are underlined or not on the forum. Most of them have "underline" as a decoration aspect in the CSS. But one, "ibr_beige" does not. Those links are not underlined and are only a different color that 'blends' with the style of the skin. I like that particular skin but actually sometimes have trouble identifying a link and have to look twice.

Now that this has come up, I may change the CSS in that skin.   Thinking.gif
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2008, 12:00:57 AM »
Well, well, back to the original topic.....seems Apple has changed the download process for Windows users.  smile.gif

http://www.macworld.com/article/133070/200...te21.html?t=232


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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2008, 01:01:57 PM »
QUOTE(krissel @ Apr 14 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The first thing I do with new apps is disable the automatic check for new versions. I'd rather do it manually and have full control of whether and when.

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I use ff 2.0.0.14. Here's my Update Prefs:

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But yet I repeatedly get Lil' Snitch reminders that Mozilla or some plug-in site wants to connect.
This problem went away for a while, but now it's back every couple of days.

I like ff much over Safari because of it's extensibility and security. For instance 'clear everything on logout'

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