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Offline bellbram

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« on: June 17, 2008, 09:19:01 AM »
I have an AW spreadsheet which now runs to five pages.  Until today it had only four pages and I had no problem printing them all, but since I added an additional few lines today, it now runs to the fifth page.  But the last page won't print.  The print Preview shows only four pages.
I've had a chat with Epsom who say "Not a printer fault.  If Preview shows only four pages that's all the printer can print.  Must be an AW problem".

Oddly enough, the printer will only print a portion of the fourth page.  Preview shows 30 lines on that page but the printer will only print 28 lines although it prints all lines on previous pages.

It's hopeless trying to speak to Apple, so here I am asking the TS brains if anyone has a solution.

Maybe I should transfer the entire spreadsheet to Excel or Mariner Calc.


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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 09:57:07 AM »
Hi,

Have you tried to copy and paste into a new AW document? Perhaps the file you're working on has become corrupted.

Also, exporting or copying and pasting to Excel might not be a bad idea, just to see if it prints out correctly.

And which computer is this file on?

I haven't tried to use AW in 10.4.11, so I don't know if that's creating some inherent problem here as well. Perhaps a more knowledgeable TS'er will be along shortly.

HTH,

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 10:37:02 AM »
bellbram. Submit your problem on the Apple Discussions Forum here.

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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 11:15:42 AM »
Chris:  I tried copying into a new AW spreadsheet - same problem.  Decided to copy all to Excel and printed with no difficulty.
   The file is on a G5 Tower using 10.4.11

jb:  Will look the AW forum out of interest, but have decided to use Excel for any future spreadsheets.  

Many thanks to you both for your input.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 12:52:17 PM »
Peter, did you try to print "page 5 of 5" all by its lonesome? Just curious if that would work.

I know you can limit the number of rows or columns in an AW SS file, but then you can't input data beyond the limits you've established, because cells beyond the limits just don't show up until you increase them again.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 03:38:44 PM »
Peter,

Now that all is again right with the world, waddya suppose would happen were you to cut & paste the data, from your new Excel document, to a new AW document?

I just wonder if the issue is with the data/settings or with AW. Thinking.gif
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 04:10:31 AM »
This was posted on the AW forum about a somewhat different printing problem:

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Most often, saving the document as an AppleWokrs 5 then opening the newly created document with AppleWorks 629 get rid of this kind of oddity because:
• it removes the embedded print record
• it rebuilds the internal pointers between components of the doc.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2008, 12:11:24 PM »
Gregg:  I did try to print page 5 solo, but no dice.  Thanks for the response.

Harv:  You know the answer 'cos we've 'chatted'

Kris:  Thanks for the forum quote — but I'll stiock with Excel for spreadsheetsfrom now on
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2008, 12:43:04 PM »
Peter, what version of Excel do you have? Mine is 11.4.1

I'll warn you that I've had "issues" with it. Some of the problems do seem to be more pronounced when I have Leopard's "Spaces" active. You won't have that added aggravation, but you might notice that Excel ignores you from time to time. I'll be typing a way, using the touch-type-but-I-like-to-look-at-the-keyboard method, and when I look up at the screen, only the first character I typed, or nothing at all is displayed. Then I have to click in the bar above the spreadsheet to try again, rather than just being able to type after clicking a cell.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2008, 01:14:29 PM »
Peter, perhaps this would be a good time to try the iWork '08 30-day free trial. You can try converting the AW doc to Numbers and see if it solves your problem...

Yesterday I downloaded and opened an Excel document in Numbers and it looked great. (I didn't try to print it.)

MacWorld Compares Excel 2008 to Numbers '08

And then there is always the NeoOffice option...

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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2008, 01:52:25 PM »
Gregg:  My Excel is just called "Excel X for Mac — Service Release 1".  I've never had the issues you mention 'tho I've used it for some time in a number of files.  I'm a two-finger-look-at-the-board typist.  I've tried to learn touch-typing and I find it quite easy except for the fact that I always touch the wrong keys!  Given that up now.

Mayo:  Thanks for the tip.  I'll have a look at the iWork free trial.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2008, 02:44:50 PM »
Word 2008 vs. Pages '08 The readers' comments are also worth perusing...

In case you don't know this already... Pages can translate only relatively recent AW versions (Boo Apple!). Numbers may also be limited in this way so if you get a dialog box stating that your spreadsheet cannot be opened you will know why...

I am moving from AW to Pages; I use AW for older docs that I don't want to bother copying-and-pasting into a Pages doc.  But I hardly ever need to access those older docs anyway, and Pages is the future while AppleWorks is officially "dead." I keep NeoOffice handy if I should ever have to deal with a M$ doc that iWork cannot handle.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2008, 03:07:19 PM »
Mayo:  Thanks again.  I'll have a look at Pages, but not sure I want to learn new tricks.  You know what they say about old dogs!!
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2008, 05:04:18 PM »
The operational differences are not significant and in some ways Pages is easier to use than AW. Try playing with the iWorks demo and see if your "old tricks" will work with Pages.  If it proves to be too much for you then you just saved up to $79 U.S.!

As long as AW is compatible with OS X you will be O.K., but I think that it is inevitable that at some point AW will cease to function properly (and its interface is sooo pre-OS X!) so Sooner or Later you will probably be leaving AppleWorks behind... Only you can decide when that will happen.

At any rate, here is the Ars Technica review of iWork '08. It should clarify some of the differences between AW and iWorks for you.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2008, 02:06:36 AM »
Mayo: I am now highly embarrassed  oops.gif

I downloaded the trial version of iWorks 08.  Thought it had a vaguely familiar look.  "Where have I seen that before?" thought I.
Opened my Applications folder and, there, nestling between iWeb and Jumpcut, was iWork 08!!  I see I downloaded it in February
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Must have tucked it away to look at some time and promptly forgot about it!  Oh dear.  And I thought I was a young octogenarian!

Guess I'll be meeting Mr Alzheimer next.

I've now had a good look at it and am impressed.  Think it will spell the end of AW for my future word-processing.

Trouble is I'm a sucker for anything new and it's not the first time I've downloaded a prog, got called away by she-who-must-be-obeyed to do some minor chore, then promptly forgot about my recent download.

I know the TS motto is "There's no such thing as a stupid question", but to my chagrin I find there IS such a thing as a stupid TeeEsser.

Thanks Mayo, for your kind persistence.
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