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Offline Gregg

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2008, 06:56:24 AM »
Peter, I know I must have forgotten a thing or two before.

I'm trying to remember it that's true... Thinking.gif wink.gif
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2008, 08:04:35 AM »
Glad I'm not alone Gregg!

But now I'm wondering if I'll ever get to grips with Pages.  Was trying to do a small thing.  Couldn't figure how, so downloaded and opened the User Guide.  All 246 pages of it.  246 pages!!.  I'll be in my nineties before I've got the hang of it.

Eventually got to the pages I needed for wrapping text around an object (110 & 111).  Faithfully followed the instructions but couldn't get it to work.  Maybe someone familiar with pages (Mayo?) can solve the problem.

Let me explain:   I inserted a graphic on to a text page, positioned where I wanted it.  Opened "Wrap" from the format bar and highlighted all the appropriate symbols to get the text to wrap around the graphic.  BUT when I return to the text page, the highlights on the "Wrap" Inspector disappear unless I click on the graphic.  As soon as I try to add text it refuses to wrap and just jumps from above the graphic to below it.
Makes me want to wallbash.gif

Am sure there's a simple solution but I haven't found it.

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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2008, 10:29:47 AM »
Peter, I can't help you with that particular problem but the Pages discussion at Apple support might provide an answer...

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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2008, 11:16:54 AM »
Mayo: Thanks for the tip.  I've scanned the Apple forum but can't find an answer so I've posted my problem there.

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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2008, 01:22:43 PM »
Peter...

I know that xABD and RPH are both 'experts' on Pages and would probably be more than happy to assist....  I know that RHP has done the 'wrap' thing for a newsletter he regularly creates...

Bob K.   rnkiii
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2008, 03:09:28 PM »
Thanks for that Bob.   I'll get in touch with Dick and see if he knows the answer.

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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2008, 05:03:22 PM »
That roaring laughter you detect is floating in from the environs of Memphis . . . it's ABD enjoying RHKiii's joke (at my expense  whistling.gif)   . . .  and doing so . .. uhmmm . . .  immensely.

Essentially, everything I know about Pages '08 (excepting the MOST intuitive elementary actions) I learned from the clear eye and steady hand of Capt. Airbusdriver.

I've now used it for six issues of the newsletter which I publish for the Friends of the Millbrae Library. And each time I use it I genuinely love it . . . more.

But, like you, Peter, there were more than a few bumps in that road that abolutely drive me krazy, until ABD swooped in (well, ambled) with the solution(s). Of course, I'm much younger than are you, so perhaps that made a difference!  (What? A couple of years doesn't count?}

So, that's what the Ho, Ho, Ho's are all about that you're hearing, wafting in from the Colonies!

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When I am inserting a cropped jpeg into a story, I choose (in the WRAP) subsection of Inspector the following alternatives:
  1. Object Placement: (Floating doesn't move w/text)
  2. Object Causes Wrap: Select 2d button from the left = wrap text around object
  3. Text Fit: choose right-hand icon and insert text size + alpha value
Best thing I discovered about Pages was once you get a "story" inserted into a Text Box on your copy layout, you (or your cat) can fool around with it until it's juuuust-right – w/o have anything etched-in-stone.

It's very forgiving.

I told Jim after putting together the Summer edition in < an hour, that I thought that compared rather favorably with day-and-a-half "required" for the first edition I did with Pages '06 a year and a half or so ago.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2008, 05:04:00 PM by RHPConsult »

Offline bellbram

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2008, 04:03:04 AM »
Dick:  Thanks for that.  Problem is I've been doing EXACTLY what you say (got the know-how from Pages' User Guide) but it just doesn’t work — the text insists on going top and bottom of the graphic instead of surrounding it.

As I write this it's around 02:00 your time, so I expect you're in the Land of Nod (or at a night club. I know what you youngsters are like) so I'll try a 'chat' some time later, after you've showered and shaved.

LATER

Just dawned on me what was wrong.  I was doing a test piece to see how 'wrapping' worked in Pages 08.  My piece of 'test' was a continuous series of M's with no breaks at all.  That just wouldn't wrap.  Perhaps not surprisingly.   When I copy/pasted a full page of proper text from another file, the text wrapped perfectly around the graphic.

So problem solved.   The stupid thing is, I have a recollection of having exactly the same problem a couple of years ago doing a test wrap using Mariner Write.  I recall that I filled the page with M's which wouldn't wrap and only got it to work properly by breaking up the continuous sentence of M's.   But that was two years ago and my memory span is not what it was.

Anyway, thanks again

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2008, 06:30:12 AM »
Glad you got that sorted, Peter. The print industry uses a piece of dummy text called Lorem Ipsum for checking layouts. Means you can safely send visuals without infringing copyrights or finding something embarrassing has been left on the page! Might be worth keeping it on your computer and get into the habit of using it so you don't forget the spaces next time smile.gif

And I've learned something - never knew where Lorem Ipsum originated. Apparently Cicero wrote it in 45BC....

And, confession time, I once did a search in TeeEss over a problem I had and found I'd posted the same problem two years earlier... but at least I didn't have to ask again since the same answer worked .... oops.gif
« Last Edit: June 20, 2008, 06:33:37 AM by Highmac »
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2008, 07:10:57 AM »
Neilum:  Muchec thankus fori lorem ipsum wot ego foundet extraordinarius valuent.  Ego havet copieda ex websitus et putit in specialeq folderum.

Vale!

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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2008, 10:18:46 AM »
No way I'm going even to try to top that!

My prediction, Peter: The more you use Pages, the more you'll be amazed at its ease and usefulness. As a layout tool.

Reflecting on my experience with AppleWorks, Publisher and other similar apps I've used in my dim and dusty Mac-past, I'm simply delighted with Pages. If I were a Rocket-Scientist (or Rocket-Surgeon, as ABD is inclined to observe) I might have some faults to find, but it seems to me they've done a great job.  Certainly '08 was an discernible improvement over '06, IMO.

My only "complaint" – applicable to most Mac apps – there soo much "stuff" buried inside, one wonders if it will ever all be revealed? What comes relatively easy (if you can have ABD peering over your shoulder on occasion) are the most frequent tools and tweaks. Bravo!

I'm not ready to give up the simplicity of MarinerWrite for WP-ing, but to do layout tasks with ease, for results that at least hint at some creativity (not mine, but Apple's), is most satisfying.
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PS: For variety, Neil, here's a line for testing copy: The mind as actual is immediately phenomenal and hence not substantial.

Which, of course, is one of my problems!   toothgrin.gif
« Last Edit: June 20, 2008, 10:24:46 AM by RHPConsult »

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2008, 10:31:50 PM »
QUOTE(Highmac @ Jun 20 2008, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And, confession time, I once did a search in TeeEss over a problem I had and found I'd posted the same problem two years earlier... but at least I didn't have to ask again since the same answer worked .... oops.gif



I can do better than that.  
Recently I searched Google to find the answer to something and noticed one of the sites listed was actually a thread on TS. So naturally I clicked on it to see what it was and indeed a post had the response I needed. Of course I was curious to see who had left the answer....

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...Would you believe it was me?  rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2008, 03:03:07 AM »
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And I'll bet it was just the other side of brilliant

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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2008, 03:35:47 AM »
I dunno, Dick.  Perhaps it only proves I have an "open mind".   losemarbles.gif


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